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I notice that if I close my right ear canal and shake it there will be a squeaking sound. Shaking with the canal open makes no squeak. I have "normal" old-age hearing loss. Comments appreciated. Mason C

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Mason A. Clark wrote: > I notice that if I close my right ear canal and > shake it there will be a squeaking sound. > Shaking with the canal open makes no squeak.

What happens when you put your finger up your nose and stand on your head? Ardway

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"Mason A. Clark" wrote: > I notice that if I close my right ear canal and > shake it there will be a squeaking sound. > Shaking with the canal open makes no squeak. > I have "normal" old-age hearing loss. > Comments appreciated. > Mason C

Don’t shake it, then. :) — Patricia Burns (to reply via email…address has only one "s")

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Mason, I understand that some people may not take this too seriously… Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this". Doctor: "Don’t do that". However, I have the same problem. In my case, I was subject to sudden sound damage in my left ear which resulted in a kind of "resonance" and distorted hearing in that ear. When I walk, that ear also "clicks". And, yes, if I stick my finger in that one ear it "sqeaks". I would think that the sqeaking would be diagnostically significant to the issue of distorted hearing — it’s not that I miss being able to put my finger in my ear . Unfortunately, my audiologist couldn’t find any problem based on a tympannogram, and said he wasn’t concerned. So I’m still looking for an answer, although I suspect there isn’t any fix even if I knew the reason. Oh, and my audiogram showed I too have "normal" 80 year-old hearing loss. Bummer that I’m only 47… Fodo.

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On 10 Mar 2005 21:00:12 -0800, fodogejo_buc…@att.net wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Mason, >I understand that some people may not take this too seriously… > Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this". > Doctor: "Don’t do that". >However, I have the same problem. In my case, I was subject to sudden >sound damage in my left ear which resulted in a kind of "resonance" >and distorted hearing in that ear. When I walk, that ear also >"clicks". And, yes, if I stick my finger in that one ear it "sqeaks". >I would think that the sqeaking would be diagnostically significant to >the issue of distorted hearing — it’s not that I miss being able to >put my finger in my ear . >Unfortunately, my audiologist couldn’t find any problem based on a >tympannogram, and said he wasn’t concerned. So I’m still looking for >an answer, although I suspect there isn’t any fix even if I knew the >reason. >Oh, and my audiogram showed I too have "normal" 80 year-old hearing >loss. Bummer that I’m only 47… >Fodo.

Thanks for an intelligent comment. I half expected to be told that it was a sign of a punctured ear drum. Because it seems to be air pressure in the canal causing the squeak, I can imagine no other explanation. I may yet see an ear doctor to be safe. No thanks to you other dummies for your stupidities. Mason C

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Mason A. Clark wrote: > On 10 Mar 2005 21:00:12 -0800, fodogejo_buc…@att.net wrote: >>Mason, >>I understand that some people may not take this too seriously… >> Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this". >> Doctor: "Don’t do that". >>However, I have the same problem. In my case, I was subject to sudden >>sound damage in my left ear which resulted in a kind of "resonance" >>and distorted hearing in that ear. When I walk, that ear also >>"clicks". And, yes, if I stick my finger in that one ear it "sqeaks". >>I would think that the sqeaking would be diagnostically significant to >>the issue of distorted hearing — it’s not that I miss being able to >>put my finger in my ear . >>Unfortunately, my audiologist couldn’t find any problem based on a >>tympannogram, and said he wasn’t concerned. So I’m still looking for >>an answer, although I suspect there isn’t any fix even if I knew the >>reason. >>Oh, and my audiogram showed I too have "normal" 80 year-old hearing >>loss. Bummer that I’m only 47… >>Fodo. > Thanks for an intelligent comment. I half expected to be > told that it was a sign of a punctured ear drum. Because > it seems to be air pressure in the canal causing the > squeak, I can imagine no other explanation. I may yet > see an ear doctor to be safe. > No thanks to you other dummies for your stupidities. > Mason C

Sourpuss! Get over yourself, oh self-involved one. Your whiny self absorption is just boring. There is no horrible disease involved in your wierd little self-gratifications. We mock because of your conceit. It’s also funny. Ardway

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Need HAs. Beginning the research …

Question:

You are the one and only person I have ever know to like bernafon. In article <itp1j091f3qonds7io27bo0l5ntthle…@4ax.com>, ed121 @mindspring.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Try the Bernafon Symbio…was best for me. Am not in the HA business > but am a professional in audio. Ed > On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:05:18 -0500, "Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> > wrote: > >I have a high freq hearing loss – above 1500 Hz The repost shows a 70-80 db > >level. My low freq is fine — 10-20 db. Both ears are about the same. The > >charts are virtually the identical between tests in ‘89, ‘97 and just last > >month. I have been using Songbirds off and on for the past two years with > >some success, but have decided to invest in "real" aids. > >I have have visited with three different audiologists over the years. Each > >of them downplayed the differences between manufactures saying that they all > >buy the same components from the same sources. Last month I visited an > >audiologist in Canada (I live just over the border in Maine). He tested me > >(same results) and quoted Atlas (Oticon) ITE at just $1300 Canadian (about > >$1000 US) each. > >So, my first questions: > >Are all HA manufacturers the same? > >Is this a particularly good deal? > >How can I know which HA I need if I have no confidance in the audiologists? > >I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. I am > >even more confused. > >Channels? > >Bands? Noise Reduction? > >Number of Listening Programs? > >Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Just be sure you can have the aids/ears serviced on a regular basis… hard to do VIA internet! Tom "Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> wrote in message

news:c_pUc.24105$Yl.4486@okepread07… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks. I’ll call him. > "JP" <jhpow…@metacrawler.com> wrote in message > news:2cf1684d.0408170224.43461722@posting.google.com… > > Since you’re looking at alternative supply channels (Canada, INTERNET, > > etc) look at America Hears (www.americahears.com). Call Carter Smith > > at America Hears (Owner’s son) and discuss your situation with him. > > He’s a very honest, upfront person who seems interested in solving a > > hard of hearing person’s problems. He was extremely helpful to me in > > solving my mom’s problems. With America Hears, you receive a 60 day > > trial with a 100% full refund if you do not like the aids for any > > reason. > > JHP > > "Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> wrote in message > <news:SJdUc.22953$Yl.22693@okepread07>… > > > I have a high freq hearing loss – above 1500 Hz The repost shows a > 70-80 db > > > level. My low freq is fine — 10-20 db. Both ears are about the same. > The > > > charts are virtually the identical between tests in ‘89, ‘97 and just > last > > > month. I have been using Songbirds off and on for the past two years > with > > > some success, but have decided to invest in "real" aids. > > > I have have visited with three different audiologists over the years. > Each > > > of them downplayed the differences between manufactures saying that they > all > > > buy the same components from the same sources. Last month I visited an > > > audiologist in Canada (I live just over the border in Maine). He tested > me > > > (same results) and quoted Atlas (Oticon) ITE at just $1300 Canadian > (about > > > $1000 US) each. > > > So, my first questions: > > > Are all HA manufacturers the same? > > > Is this a particularly good deal? > > > How can I know which HA I need if I have no confidance in the > audiologists? > > > I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. > I am > > > even more confused. > > > Channels? > > > Bands? Noise Reduction? > > > Number of Listening Programs? > > > Thanks for any help you can offer.

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"Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> schreef in bericht: > I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. I am > even more confused.

I can understand. If you do a Google on "hearing aid" you will find several very informing sites. Answers to some of you questions: A hearing aid is not a straight amplifier, besides amplification it also provides equalizing (amplifying some frequencies more than others) and compression (amplify soft sounds relatively more and limit loud sounds) > Channels?

This features the number of compression settings. With one channel only one limiter is utilised. When high freqencies hit the top of amplification the limiter will work and lower the total volume, thus reducing other frequencies. This can ofton be heard with sudden loud noises that "dunk" the entire volume. If a hearing aid has more than one channel several ranges of frequencies can be compressed and limited independently. > Bands?

The numer of frequency ranges that can be adjusted. The analog aids usually have two: high and low. Advanced digitals have up to 16 or maybe more, providing the opportunity for a very extensive adjustment to your individual audiogram. > Noise Reduction?

A feature that can discriminate between voice and background noise. This is very handy when speaking to somebody in a noisy place (restaurant, mall, warehouse, etc..) The aid will redruce the back ground sounds and amplify the voices. This is ofton combined with "directional microphones", which is a feature of multiple mic’s (2 or 3) which enables the aid to discriminate between sound from the front (e.g. the person you are speaking to) and sound from the side or the back (cars running by, water flowing etc…) This is handy speaking to one person you are facing, but can be distracting when standing in a group of people and not understanding the persons standing next to you, but clearly hearing the persons opposite you. Personally I have a hard time with this while driving the car and not understanding the person next to me. > Number of Listening Programs?

A "listening program" is a preset of compression, equalizing, volume and sometimes other features. They can be set to several settings, like an every day use program, a noisy-place program or a music-program. The numer of programs indicates the number of presets that can be used, this varies up to 4, which should be enough for regular use. > Are all HA manufacturers the same?

Probably not as a completed aid is more than the sum of all components The most important thing is to find an audiologist who will listen to your needs and (even more important) understands the fitting proces. Buying you aid is a big decision, but it’s only the beginning. Surely with the full digitals the number of options and settings is very big and you will need an audiologist who understands your hearing problem and is capable of making the crucial fitting adjustments. Do not expect it will be good in one or two visits. Don’t hesitate to ask for another brand of aids if you’re not satisfied. And make sure you read some information in books, brochures of on the internet to understand some of the things the audi will tell or ask you. Good luck!! Marnix

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Try the Bernafon Symbio…was best for me. Am not in the HA business but am a professional in audio. Ed On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:05:18 -0500, "Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I have a high freq hearing loss – above 1500 Hz The repost shows a 70-80 db >level. My low freq is fine — 10-20 db. Both ears are about the same. The >charts are virtually the identical between tests in ‘89, ‘97 and just last >month. I have been using Songbirds off and on for the past two years with >some success, but have decided to invest in "real" aids. >I have have visited with three different audiologists over the years. Each >of them downplayed the differences between manufactures saying that they all >buy the same components from the same sources. Last month I visited an >audiologist in Canada (I live just over the border in Maine). He tested me >(same results) and quoted Atlas (Oticon) ITE at just $1300 Canadian (about >$1000 US) each. >So, my first questions: >Are all HA manufacturers the same? >Is this a particularly good deal? >How can I know which HA I need if I have no confidance in the audiologists? >I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. I am >even more confused. >Channels? >Bands? Noise Reduction? >Number of Listening Programs? >Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Just spoke with Carter. Sounds like a believable person. Has you Mom received her hearing aids yet and does she like them? Clint "JP" <jhpow…@metacrawler.com> wrote in message

news:2cf1684d.0408170224.43461722@posting.google.com… > Since you’re looking at alternative supply channels (Canada, INTERNET, > etc) look at America Hears (www.americahears.com). Call Carter Smith > at America Hears (Owner’s son) and discuss your situation with him. > He’s a very honest, upfront person who seems interested in solving a > hard of hearing person’s problems. He was extremely helpful to me in > solving my mom’s problems. With America Hears, you receive a 60 day > trial with a 100% full refund if you do not like the aids for any > reason. > JHP > "Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> wrote in message

<news:SJdUc.22953$Yl.22693@okepread07>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I have a high freq hearing loss – above 1500 Hz The repost shows a 70-80 db > > level. My low freq is fine — 10-20 db. Both ears are about the same. The > > charts are virtually the identical between tests in ‘89, ‘97 and just last > > month. I have been using Songbirds off and on for the past two years with > > some success, but have decided to invest in "real" aids. > > I have have visited with three different audiologists over the years. Each > > of them downplayed the differences between manufactures saying that they all > > buy the same components from the same sources. Last month I visited an > > audiologist in Canada (I live just over the border in Maine). He tested me > > (same results) and quoted Atlas (Oticon) ITE at just $1300 Canadian (about > > $1000 US) each. > > So, my first questions: > > Are all HA manufacturers the same? > > Is this a particularly good deal? > > How can I know which HA I need if I have no confidance in the audiologists? > > I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. I am > > even more confused. > > Channels? > > Bands? Noise Reduction? > > Number of Listening Programs? > > Thanks for any help you can offer.

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I take it you are completely satisified with America Hears. Clint "JP" <jhpow…@metacrawler.com> wrote in message

news:2cf1684d.0408171833.2afee8e6@posting.google.com… > Many are skeptical of buying over the INTERNET. I was too. America > Hears supplies you the software to adjust the aids yourself, makes > adjustments which you download to the aids via the INTERNET, or you > can send them back and have them reprogrammed. They pay shipping both > ways during the 1 year warranty period. > I sent my mom’s aids back to have a new, different wax guard > installed. They installed a new wax guard, receiver tube, and clean > the aids. Including shipping, both ways which America Hears pays, it > took less than two days. I sent her Widex aids back via an audiologist > for tcoils and larger vents and it took 3 weeks. > JP > Serpent <> wrote in message

<news:4du4i0li30k47et16vnk255pgns2u0662s@4ax.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:28:21 GMT, "Martin" <marty…@optonline.net> > > wrote: > > >"Thomas Bunetta" <advan…@ewol.com> wrote in message > > >news:41223c23$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net… > > >> Just be sure you can have the aids/ears serviced on a regular basis… > > hard > > >> to do VIA internet! > > >> Tom > > >snip>>> > > >Tom, what do you mean by "serviced" ? And how often does this have to be > > >done? > > Greetings! > > While I am not Tom, I would strongly advise you to purchase the best > > digital BTE aids that you can afford. Buy them from a LOCAL > > Audiologists, as it will probably take you several trips back to get > > your aids tweaked out so that yo may hear the Very Best that you can! > > DO NOT rely on a mail order service that sends you aids tweaked to > > what your hearing loss profile is. My Audiologist started out, with > > her experience, of "this is what most people with your hearing profile > > say sounds best", and we went from there. > > If you have a simple malfunction, such as a battery door breaking, > > then just what would YOU do? I would go to my LOCAL Audiologist, have > > the door replaced, and be home in less that two hours. > > There is NO replacement for physically going to a person, looking at > > them eye to eye, saying please fix this, and having them do so! :-) > > Good Luck to you! > > Best Regards, > > Serpent

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Clint, My mom is in the last week of her 60 day trial. She has decided to keep them. I don’t think I could take the aids away from her. She has Freedom FS 16X with t-coils and directional mics. I ordered the extended warranty Tuesday. She says she is hearing better than she has in 14 years, ever since she started wearing hearing aids. This is her third pair (Starkey and Widex previously). She is completely satisfied with the aids and service. This is her first major internet purchase. JP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> wrote in message <news:AhLUc.25796$Yl.18063@okepread07>… >Just spoke with Carter. Sounds like a believable person. Has you Mom > received her hearing aids yet and does she like them? > Clint > "JP" <jhpow…@metacrawler.com> wrote in message > news:2cf1684d.0408170224.43461722@posting.google.com… > > Since you’re looking at alternative supply channels (Canada, INTERNET, > > etc) look at America Hears (www.americahears.com). Call Carter Smith > > at America Hears (Owner’s son) and discuss your situation with him. > > He’s a very honest, upfront person who seems interested in solving a > > hard of hearing person’s problems. He was extremely helpful to me in > > solving my mom’s problems. With America Hears, you receive a 60 day > > trial with a 100% full refund if you do not like the aids for any > > reason. > > JHP > > "Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> wrote in message > <news:SJdUc.22953$Yl.22693@okepread07>… > > > I have a high freq hearing loss – above 1500 Hz The repost shows a > 70-80 db > > > level. My low freq is fine — 10-20 db. Both ears are about the same. > The > > > charts are virtually the identical between tests in ‘89, ‘97 and just > last > > > month. I have been using Songbirds off and on for the past two years > with > > > some success, but have decided to invest in "real" aids. > > > I have have visited with three different audiologists over the years. > Each > > > of them downplayed the differences between manufactures saying that they > all > > > buy the same components from the same sources. Last month I visited an > > > audiologist in Canada (I live just over the border in Maine). He tested > me > > > (same results) and quoted Atlas (Oticon) ITE at just $1300 Canadian > (about > > > $1000 US) each. > > > So, my first questions: > > > Are all HA manufacturers the same? > > > Is this a particularly good deal? > > > How can I know which HA I need if I have no confidance in the > audiologists? > > > I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. > I am > > > even more confused. > > > Channels? > > > Bands? Noise Reduction? > > > Number of Listening Programs? > > > Thanks for any help you can offer.

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A comment on one of the suggestions… He is not a canidate for a resound air, his high freqs are too severe. but he is a canidate for the resound canta 7 open, the bte that is reconfigured to the high freq hearing loss. In article <412241f5$0$130$1b2cd…@news.wanadoo.nl>, mvboetzel…@wanadooNOSPAM.nl says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> schreef in bericht: > > I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. I > am > > even more confused. > I can understand. If you do a Google on "hearing aid" you will find several > very informing sites. > Answers to some of you questions: > A hearing aid is not a straight amplifier, besides amplification it also > provides equalizing (amplifying some frequencies more than others) and > compression (amplify soft sounds relatively more and limit loud sounds) > > Channels? > This features the number of compression settings. With one channel only one > limiter is utilised. When high freqencies hit the top of amplification the > limiter will work and lower the total volume, thus reducing other > frequencies. This can ofton be heard with sudden loud noises that "dunk" the > entire volume. If a hearing aid has more than one channel several ranges of > frequencies can be compressed and limited independently. > > Bands? > The numer of frequency ranges that can be adjusted. The analog aids usually > have two: high and low. Advanced digitals have up to 16 or maybe more, > providing the opportunity for a very extensive adjustment to your individual > audiogram. > > Noise Reduction? > A feature that can discriminate between voice and background noise. This is > very handy when speaking to somebody in a noisy place (restaurant, mall, > warehouse, etc..) The aid will redruce the back ground sounds and amplify > the voices. This is ofton combined with "directional microphones", which is > a feature of multiple mic’s (2 or 3) which enables the aid to discriminate > between sound from the front (e.g. the person you are speaking to) and sound > from the side or the back (cars running by, water flowing etc…) This is > handy speaking to one person you are facing, but can be distracting when > standing in a group of people and not understanding the persons standing > next to you, but clearly hearing the persons opposite you. Personally I have > a hard time with this while driving the car and not understanding the person > next to me. > > Number of Listening Programs? > A "listening program" is a preset of compression, equalizing, volume and > sometimes other features. They can be set to several settings, like an every > day use program, a noisy-place program or a music-program. The numer of > programs indicates the number of presets that can be used, this varies up to > 4, which should be enough for regular use. > > Are all HA manufacturers the same? > Probably not as a completed aid is more than the sum of all components

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"Thomas Bunetta" <advan…@ewol.com> wrote in message

news:41223c23$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net… > Just be sure you can have the aids/ears serviced on a regular basis… hard > to do VIA internet! > Tom

snip>>> Tom, what do you mean by "serviced" ? And how often does this have to be done?

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Many are skeptical of buying over the INTERNET. I was too. America Hears supplies you the software to adjust the aids yourself, makes adjustments which you download to the aids via the INTERNET, or you can send them back and have them reprogrammed. They pay shipping both ways during the 1 year warranty period. I sent my mom’s aids back to have a new, different wax guard installed. They installed a new wax guard, receiver tube, and clean the aids. Including shipping, both ways which America Hears pays, it took less than two days. I sent her Widex aids back via an audiologist for tcoils and larger vents and it took 3 weeks. JP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Serpent <> wrote in message <news:4du4i0li30k47et16vnk255pgns2u0662s@4ax.com>… > On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:28:21 GMT, "Martin" <marty…@optonline.net> > wrote: > >"Thomas Bunetta" <advan…@ewol.com> wrote in message > >news:41223c23$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net… > >> Just be sure you can have the aids/ears serviced on a regular basis… > hard > >> to do VIA internet! > >> Tom > >snip>>> > >Tom, what do you mean by "serviced" ? And how often does this have to be > >done? > Greetings! > While I am not Tom, I would strongly advise you to purchase the best > digital BTE aids that you can afford. Buy them from a LOCAL > Audiologists, as it will probably take you several trips back to get > your aids tweaked out so that yo may hear the Very Best that you can! > DO NOT rely on a mail order service that sends you aids tweaked to > what your hearing loss profile is. My Audiologist started out, with > her experience, of "this is what most people with your hearing profile > say sounds best", and we went from there. > If you have a simple malfunction, such as a battery door breaking, > then just what would YOU do? I would go to my LOCAL Audiologist, have > the door replaced, and be home in less that two hours. > There is NO replacement for physically going to a person, looking at > them eye to eye, saying please fix this, and having them do so! :-) > Good Luck to you! > Best Regards, > Serpent

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I have a high freq hearing loss – above 1500 Hz The repost shows a 70-80 db level. My low freq is fine — 10-20 db. Both ears are about the same. The charts are virtually the identical between tests in ‘89, ‘97 and just last month. I have been using Songbirds off and on for the past two years with some success, but have decided to invest in "real" aids. I have have visited with three different audiologists over the years. Each of them downplayed the differences between manufactures saying that they all buy the same components from the same sources. Last month I visited an audiologist in Canada (I live just over the border in Maine). He tested me (same results) and quoted Atlas (Oticon) ITE at just $1300 Canadian (about $1000 US) each. So, my first questions: Are all HA manufacturers the same? Is this a particularly good deal? How can I know which HA I need if I have no confidance in the audiologists? I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. I am even more confused. Channels? Bands? Noise Reduction? Number of Listening Programs? Thanks for any help you can offer.

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You say you live in Maine. Does your state mandate a 30-day trial period for hearing aids? Most states do, so look into it and if so, try one or two of the name brands. I recently bought a new aid, my first digital after wearing several analog aids for many years. I’m impressed with the digital sound and technology. Today’s aids are good! Better than the old analogs, and having several "listening programs"is a big plus. Since you have only a high-frequency loss you might want to look at the Resound Air model. People seem to like them. VC On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:05:18 -0500, "Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I have a high freq hearing loss – above 1500 Hz The repost shows a 70-80 db >level. My low freq is fine — 10-20 db. Both ears are about the same. The >charts are virtually the identical between tests in ‘89, ‘97 and just last >month. I have been using Songbirds off and on for the past two years with >some success, but have decided to invest in "real" aids. >I have have visited with three different audiologists over the years. Each >of them downplayed the differences between manufactures saying that they all >buy the same components from the same sources. Last month I visited an >audiologist in Canada (I live just over the border in Maine). He tested me >(same results) and quoted Atlas (Oticon) ITE at just $1300 Canadian (about >$1000 US) each. >So, my first questions: >Are all HA manufacturers the same? >Is this a particularly good deal? >How can I know which HA I need if I have no confidance in the audiologists? >I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. I am >even more confused. >Channels? >Bands? Noise Reduction? >Number of Listening Programs? >Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Since you’re looking at alternative supply channels (Canada, INTERNET, etc) look at America Hears (www.americahears.com). Call Carter Smith at America Hears (Owner’s son) and discuss your situation with him. He’s a very honest, upfront person who seems interested in solving a hard of hearing person’s problems. He was extremely helpful to me in solving my mom’s problems. With America Hears, you receive a 60 day trial with a 100% full refund if you do not like the aids for any reason. JHP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> wrote in message <news:SJdUc.22953$Yl.22693@okepread07>… > I have a high freq hearing loss – above 1500 Hz The repost shows a 70-80 db > level. My low freq is fine — 10-20 db. Both ears are about the same. The > charts are virtually the identical between tests in ‘89, ‘97 and just last > month. I have been using Songbirds off and on for the past two years with > some success, but have decided to invest in "real" aids. > I have have visited with three different audiologists over the years. Each > of them downplayed the differences between manufactures saying that they all > buy the same components from the same sources. Last month I visited an > audiologist in Canada (I live just over the border in Maine). He tested me > (same results) and quoted Atlas (Oticon) ITE at just $1300 Canadian (about > $1000 US) each. > So, my first questions: > Are all HA manufacturers the same? > Is this a particularly good deal? > How can I know which HA I need if I have no confidance in the audiologists? > I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. I am > even more confused. > Channels? > Bands? Noise Reduction? > Number of Listening Programs? > Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Thanks. I’ll call him. "JP" <jhpow…@metacrawler.com> wrote in message

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Yes, Maine does have the 30 day law. Not sure how much retention the law allows for if I return — 100%, 90%, etc. "Victoria Coll" <tatehous…@earthlink.com> wrote in message

news:ast2i0tqi8crdvqqvl61nmvf0ksvejh0br@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You say you live in Maine. Does your state mandate a 30-day trial > period for hearing aids? Most states do, so look into it and if so, > try one or two of the name brands. > I recently bought a new aid, my first digital after wearing several > analog aids for many years. I’m impressed with the digital sound and > technology. Today’s aids are good! Better than the old analogs, and > having several "listening programs"is a big plus. > Since you have only a high-frequency loss you might want to look at > the Resound Air model. People seem to like them. > VC > On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:05:18 -0500, "Clint Walker" <Cl…@cox.net> > wrote: > >I have a high freq hearing loss – above 1500 Hz The repost shows a 70-80 db > >level. My low freq is fine — 10-20 db. Both ears are about the same. The > >charts are virtually the identical between tests in ‘89, ‘97 and just last > >month. I have been using Songbirds off and on for the past two years with > >some success, but have decided to invest in "real" aids. > >I have have visited with three different audiologists over the years. Each > >of them downplayed the differences between manufactures saying that they all > >buy the same components from the same sources. Last month I visited an > >audiologist in Canada (I live just over the border in Maine). He tested me > >(same results) and quoted Atlas (Oticon) ITE at just $1300 Canadian (about > >$1000 US) each. > >So, my first questions: > >Are all HA manufacturers the same? > >Is this a particularly good deal? > >How can I know which HA I need if I have no confidance in the audiologists? > >I have studied the chart at http://www.ahearingaid.com/comparison.htm. I am > >even more confused. > >Channels? > >Bands? Noise Reduction? > >Number of Listening Programs? > >Thanks for any help you can offer.

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always clogged ears?

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Hi CP, I have had that problem for years. I seem to have long spells of it. ( Up to four months) The external ear pain wakes me from a sound sleep. It burns like blazes and is excruciating. Even the pressure of ear muffs, or a knit hat will set it off. It goes away on it’s own and I may not have it happen for months after that. I will say that, perhaps coincidentaly, it has not been happening since I have been on Imuran. I agree that it does feel like inflammed cartiage. I asked a doctor about it once, and was met with a blank stare. BJ-Sk. Canada "CP" <csper…@juno.com> wrote in message

news:NZcJc.74850$qw1.16019@nwrddc01.gnilink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> While we’re on ears … > Does anyone else have periodic problems with the outer ear becoming so > sensitive that it hurts to lay on it when sleeping? (I’m not aware of > discomfort when I’m not laying on it.) The discomfort almost feels like > the cartilage is inflamed. It comes and goes … no problem for > days/weeks, then sensitive for a few days. Sometimes it is just one > ear, but more often it affects both. This has been happening for years. > John, sorry about your unresolved problems. > cp > John wrote: > > I’ve got this ear thing also, mostly on the right side. > > First time it started my PC doc’s partner tried a Z pac and Mycelex because > > of white spots on ear drum. This helped a lot but didn’t cure it. So he: > > Called in another Z pac. No help this time and sent me to: > > Rheumy who saw the white spots but didn’t think it was fungus, and he sent > > me to: > > Xray and ENT, who thought the spots were maybe an allergy or post nasal drip > > and gave me Rhinocort but that didn’t help. > > So he sent me back to: > > Rheumy who wasn’t sure what it is and he sent me to Neuro who finally found > > low B12. > > After a couple of these shots I feel better in general but my ear still > > hurts, so I go back to: > > Regular PC, now he sees no spots but my eardrum is inflamed and I should > > try OTC decongestant for a few days. > > Five months and six doc visits later, I still don’t know why my ear hurts. > > For what its worth I also had persistent pain in my right eye and teeth for > > a real long time. > > Its odd to see other with same unresolved problems. > > john

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"BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message

news:10fdgqjck3isjef@corp.supernews.com… > Hi CP, > been happening since I have been on Imuran. I agree that it does feel like > inflammed cartiage. I asked a doctor about it once, and was met with a blank > stare. > BJ-Sk. Canada

I have wondered if there is a Raynaud’s connection because my ears become very painful when cold. I have Raynaud’s in feet and nose and hands – why not ears? :P

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If you have sore ears, ask your rheumatologist about relapsing polychondritis. Bruce

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According to Dr Wallace The Lupus Book pg 118 " In general, lupus patients have no unusual or specific hearing deficits. They may complain of tinnitus, or ringing in the ears, due to anti-inflammatory medicatons such as antimalarias or NSAIDS. This is especially common in those ofer the age of 60. One lupus patient in 500 has a rare complication known as autoimmune vestibulitis, characterized by sudden hearing loss with or without visual changes or dizziness. Corticosteroids reverse the deafness. On rare occasions, the cartilage lining the outer part of the ear becomes inflamed in SLE, producing a condition known as chrondritis. It appears identical to another autoimmune disease called relapsing chondrititis, where the cartilage in the trachea, nose, and valves of the heart can also be inflamed. In SLE, however, chondritis is usually limited to the ear and responds to steroids. To sum it up, ear problems are very rare in SLE and, if present, usually stem from nonimmunological sources." Strange how so many of us seem to have inflamed cartilage of our ears!!!!!! Add me to the list of those "rare" people. Hugs, Sherry "blader" <bla…@chartermi.net> wrote in message

news:10fdviv54onml18@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you have sore ears, ask your rheumatologist about relapsing > polychondritis. > Bruce

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I sort of thought my ears problems were because we lived at sea level. If I’m swimming and I dive deep in the pool it’s my ears that force me back up due to extreme pain. Going into the mountains often sets my ears crazy because of the pressure changes as we go up and down the mountains. Maybe someplace above sea level is the perfect place for me and my ears won’t drive me nuts there. One thing I do know is that I did not develop all my sinuses. I don’t know if they are all there now but when I was in my early 20’s the ENT was quite surprised that I still did not have most of them. I figured maybe the normal moisture in my head had to go someplace so it hits the ears. My ears are the first thing that seems to get hit if I do pick up a cold or I am bothered by an allergy. I know that I live with so many weird things that I tend to figure this is normal and everyone has it. I guess the ear thing is something that everyone doesn’t have. Hmmmmmm. I wonder what "normal" must be like? Bev "KCat" <kca…@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:YTHIc.8082$PY2.5745@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone else deal with this? I constantly feel pressure on my eardrums. > Have for 2 or 3 years now. Every now and then (moments ago) I yawn or > something and one ear or the other opens up and I get a very brief > experience of what my hearing used to be. it quickly shuts off again. no > meds help and in fact I think ditropan is what caused this but it’s not a > med I can just stop taking. > just curious. An ENT looked at them once and commented that it looked like I > had persistent allergy irritation but otherwise healthy eardrums. <shrug> > Another "you’re just weird, KCat" thing probably. > k

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Hmmmmmm. I wonder what "normal" must be like? > Bev

Something that we will never know! <g> Hugs, Sherry

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> Strange how so many of us seem to have inflamed cartilage of our ears!!!!!! > Add me to the list of those "rare" people. > Hugs, > Sherry

Very interesting info, Sherry. Thanks for checking that out. of course, you know we have a rare disease, right? :P““` Someday the medical community might actually catch up with the patient population. maybe.

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"Beverley" <beverly.brow…@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:MAFJc.66979$6e7.19142@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… > I know that I live with so many weird things that I tend to figure this is > normal and everyone has it. I guess the ear thing is something that everyone > doesn’t have. Hmmmmmm. I wonder what "normal" must be like? > Bev

I hear that! I was telling hubby about my tooth extraction scheduled for next week. I’m only getting a local. He said "well, that’s not the way I’d do it but…" well, I’m more unnerved by general anesthesia than by having a tooth hacked out of my jaw. I told him that I worried about the depression that sometimes results from general anesthesia. I’ve fought clinical depression enough in my life and I’ve been med-free for several years and want to keep it that way. He took the opportunity to point out once again that "there must be something weird about your brain chemistry compared to normal people." :P““ Fortunately I love him, he takes good care of me, and he’s good in… ;-)

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Rich Please expand on the lips mouth neck and throat issues. Recently I have been having lips (upper lip actually) go numb and tingly but blamed this on the Reynauds now I am thinking that may have been a mistake?? Nicole C. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ash…@hotmail.com (Richard A.) wrote in message <news:e72ae7b2.0407141943.1e301a6e@posting.google.com>… > Solaraze is a new non-steroid anti-inflammatory gel that I used to > treat my outer ear problems. I also used Efudex cream because I soon > found out the inflammed ear tissue was mutated and I wanted to kill it > off. I soon found out that the ‘ear problem’ was a joke..the actual > extent of the mutated tissue extended to my lips, mouth, neck, throat > and other places..so if you have an ‘ear problem’ it’s likely the tip > of the iceberg. > Rich

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"Richard A." <ash…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:e72ae7b2.0407160820.9e71946@posting.google.com… > of anti oxidants for almost 2 years. So the bottom line is the doctors > dont know what I have and advised me to treat ‘it’ by eating a > balanced meal. Another mega joke. > Rich

oh good lord! yeah – I love it "go home, get some rest, eat a balanced diet, you’re just under stress." arggg! ya might want to read my pages – and of course, the ASL FAQ – when you have a moment. The part I’m most interested in you reading is the fun I went through with my diagnosis. I have to say that my doc takes this all very seriously now since I’ve had a few scary blood counts. But it sure didn’t start out that way. kcat http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/kcspages/

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I have THREE copies of the book in my house (as I’m always buying them to give away!!) and yet I forget to look up my own symptoms so thanks for doing so. Dr. Wallace is scheduled to talk in the Washington, DC area in October. cp – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Sherry wrote: > According to Dr Wallace The Lupus Book pg 118 > " In general, lupus patients have no unusual or specific hearing deficits. > They may complain of tinnitus, or ringing in the ears, due to > anti-inflammatory medicatons such as antimalarias or NSAIDS. This is > especially common in those ofer the age of 60. > One lupus patient in 500 has a rare complication known as autoimmune > vestibulitis, characterized by sudden hearing loss with or without visual > changes or dizziness. Corticosteroids reverse the deafness. > On rare occasions, the cartilage lining the outer part of the ear becomes > inflamed in SLE, producing a condition known as chrondritis. It appears > identical to another autoimmune disease called relapsing chondrititis, where > the cartilage in the trachea, nose, and valves of the heart can also be > inflamed. In SLE, however, chondritis is usually limited to the ear and > responds to steroids. > To sum it up, ear problems are very rare in SLE and, if present, usually > stem from nonimmunological sources." > Strange how so many of us seem to have inflamed cartilage of our ears!!!!!! > Add me to the list of those "rare" people. > Hugs, > Sherry > "blader" <bla…@chartermi.net> wrote in message > news:10fdviv54onml18@corp.supernews.com… >>If you have sore ears, ask your rheumatologist about relapsing >>polychondritis. >>Bruce

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No problem! Hugs, Sherry

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Follow the link to the online Merck Manuals for Relapsing Polychondritis http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanual/section5/chapter50/50d.jsp "An episodic, inflammatory, and destructive disorder involving cartilaginous and other connective tissues of the ears, joints, nose, larynx, trachea, eyes, heart valves, kidneys, and blood vessels. The frequent association of relapsing polychondritis with RA, systemic vasculitis, SLE, and other connective tissue diseases suggests an autoimmune etiology. This disorder occurs with equal frequency in men and women; onset typically is in middle age." Another website: http://www.polychondritis.com/ And another: http://rpolychondritis.tripod.com/ I’ve had other symptoms on and off through the years … eye problems, pain at the tip of my nose, hoarseness, pulmonary tests that the allergist mentioned being atypical, "sinus" headaches that do not seem to be due to sinus infections, etc. Perhaps it’s time (for me and the rest of us with ear pain) to share this with our rheumatologists! Thanks Bruce and Sherry. cp – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sherry wrote: >> According to Dr Wallace The Lupus Book pg 118 >> " In general, lupus patients have no unusual or specific hearing >> deficits. >> They may complain of tinnitus, or ringing in the ears, due to >> anti-inflammatory medicatons such as antimalarias or NSAIDS. This is >> especially common in those ofer the age of 60. >> One lupus patient in 500 has a rare complication known as autoimmune >> vestibulitis, characterized by sudden hearing loss with or without visual >> changes or dizziness. Corticosteroids reverse the deafness. >> On rare occasions, the cartilage lining the outer part of the ear becomes >> inflamed in SLE, producing a condition known as chrondritis. It appears >> identical to another autoimmune disease called relapsing chondrititis, >> where >> the cartilage in the trachea, nose, and valves of the heart can also be >> inflamed. In SLE, however, chondritis is usually limited to the ear and >> responds to steroids. >> To sum it up, ear problems are very rare in SLE and, if present, usually >> stem from nonimmunological sources." >> Strange how so many of us seem to have inflamed cartilage of our >> ears!!!!!! >> Add me to the list of those "rare" people. >> Hugs, >> Sherry >> "blader" <bla…@chartermi.net> wrote in message >> news:10fdviv54onml18@corp.supernews.com… >>> If you have sore ears, ask your rheumatologist about relapsing >>> polychondritis. >>> Bruce

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -CP wrote: > Follow the link to the online Merck Manuals for Relapsing Polychondritis > http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanual/section5/chapter50/50d.jsp > "An episodic, inflammatory, and destructive disorder involving > cartilaginous and other connective tissues of the ears, joints, nose, > larynx, trachea, eyes, heart valves, kidneys, and blood vessels. > The frequent association of relapsing polychondritis with RA, systemic > vasculitis, SLE, and other connective tissue diseases suggests an > autoimmune etiology. This disorder occurs with equal frequency in men > and women; onset typically is in middle age." > Another website: > http://www.polychondritis.com/ > And another: > http://rpolychondritis.tripod.com/ > I’ve had other symptoms on and off through the years … eye problems, > pain at the tip of my nose, hoarseness, pulmonary tests that the > allergist mentioned being atypical, "sinus" headaches that do not seem > to be due to sinus infections, etc. Perhaps it’s time (for me and the > rest of us with ear pain) to share this with our rheumatologists! > Thanks Bruce and Sherry. > cp

Thanks CP. I searched all newsgroups back to 1995. It’s certainly rare (or gets missed). I only found 10 persons (or their friends) posting and asking about it. One was on the fibro newsgroups year 2000/2001 So if you’re diagnosed perhaps we could find her or maybe she’s lurking.. Hugs J

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Anyone else deal with this? I constantly feel pressure on my eardrums. Have for 2 or 3 years now. Every now and then (moments ago) I yawn or something and one ear or the other opens up and I get a very brief experience of what my hearing used to be. it quickly shuts off again. no meds help and in fact I think ditropan is what caused this but it’s not a med I can just stop taking. just curious. An ENT looked at them once and commented that it looked like I had persistent allergy irritation but otherwise healthy eardrums. <shrug> Another "you’re just weird, KCat" thing probably. k

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All the time!!! And often I produce too much wax. Bev "KCat" <kca…@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

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Well OMG! This is the first time i have heard someone else mention the ear thing! I too finally asked the doc to check my right ear (it is the one that does it most) and he said all clear excepting i probably have a sinus inflammation causing irritation causing ‘fluid pressure changes’… and ‘did i get any nasal dripping?’ (no i don’t) I don’t know if that helps you KC but i can say that I am just glad to know i am not alone in this one lol! And no, i don’t think either you or i am weird in that sense…. our ears/sinus/canals may be though <g>… what next?! Hugs from Shelagh http://continue.to/lupus "KCat" <kca…@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

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I’ve got this ear thing also, mostly on the right side. First time it started my PC doc’s partner tried a Z pac and Mycelex because of white spots on ear drum. This helped a lot but didn’t cure it. So he: Called in another Z pac. No help this time and sent me to: Rheumy who saw the white spots but didn’t think it was fungus, and he sent me to: Xray and ENT, who thought the spots were maybe an allergy or post nasal drip and gave me Rhinocort but that didn’t help. So he sent me back to: Rheumy who wasn’t sure what it is and he sent me to Neuro who finally found low B12. After a couple of these shots I feel better in general but my ear still hurts, so I go back to: Regular PC, now he sees no spots but my eardrum is inflamed and I should try OTC decongestant for a few days. Five months and six doc visits later, I still don’t know why my ear hurts. For what its worth I also had persistent pain in my right eye and teeth for a real long time. Its odd to see other with same unresolved problems. john

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I thought I was the only one that had the icky ear problems. My left ear gets plugged up everynight like it is swollen. It also drains and is irritated. On my left ear lobe it is very tender and raw. I think it is going to fall off one day. Maybe it is an inflammation thingy, everything else is when I mention symptoms to my RD, and when I mention symptoms to my PCP he says that the RD will take care of it. D*&$%#T! <Aggravation> Pass the Qtips, RhondaM "KCat" <kca…@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

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<snip> For what its worth I also had persistent pain in my right eye and teeth for > a real long time. > Its odd to see other with same unresolved problems. > john

</snip> How weird is that…. I too had problems with my eye, cheek and jaw and it did help to up the steroid dosage temporarily. Since it has recurred x2 just as badly, and I am really hoping that it doesn’t happen again! I am talking really painful to open my mouth, touch my face (the right side only), or even to lie on my right side with head on the pillow; and in my mouth I thought for sure I had an abcess brewing (btw, i didn’t) and then the tm joint got inflamed (doc said like any other joint it too can be lupus involved)… I agree, it is good to hear others having similar problems and no answers…. misery does love company <g>! — Hugs from Shelagh http://continue.to/lupus

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> Pass the Qtips, > RhondaM

<giggle> i know it’s frustrating but glad to see you still have a sense of humour.

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John" <johntheplum…@myrealbox.com> wrote in message

news:nq0Jc.319$8v2.275@lakeread01… <snipped medical musical chairs> > Its odd to see other with same unresolved problems. > john

Experiences like yours are what have kept me from even bringing this up with my other docs. it’s only been happening since ‘97 (worse since 2001) so it hardly seems worth it to bother. just chuggin’ along as always.

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While we’re on ears … Does anyone else have periodic problems with the outer ear becoming so sensitive that it hurts to lay on it when sleeping? (I’m not aware of discomfort when I’m not laying on it.) The discomfort almost feels like the cartilage is inflamed. It comes and goes … no problem for days/weeks, then sensitive for a few days. Sometimes it is just one ear, but more often it affects both. This has been happening for years. John, sorry about your unresolved problems. cp – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -John wrote: > I’ve got this ear thing also, mostly on the right side. > First time it started my PC doc’s partner tried a Z pac and Mycelex because > of white spots on ear drum. This helped a lot but didn’t cure it. So he: > Called in another Z pac. No help this time and sent me to: > Rheumy who saw the white spots but didn’t think it was fungus, and he sent > me to: > Xray and ENT, who thought the spots were maybe an allergy or post nasal drip > and gave me Rhinocort but that didn’t help. > So he sent me back to: > Rheumy who wasn’t sure what it is and he sent me to Neuro who finally found > low B12. > After a couple of these shots I feel better in general but my ear still > hurts, so I go back to: > Regular PC, now he sees no spots but my eardrum is inflamed and I should > try OTC decongestant for a few days. > Five months and six doc visits later, I still don’t know why my ear hurts. > For what its worth I also had persistent pain in my right eye and teeth for > a real long time. > Its odd to see other with same unresolved problems. > john

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"CP" <csper…@juno.com> wrote in message

news:NZcJc.74850$qw1.16019@nwrddc01.gnilink.net… > While we’re on ears … > Does anyone else have periodic problems with the outer ear becoming so > sensitive that it hurts to lay on it when sleeping? (I’m not aware of > discomfort when I’m not laying on it.) The discomfort almost feels like > the cartilage is inflamed. It comes and goes … no problem for > days/weeks, then sensitive for a few days. Sometimes it is just one > ear, but more often it affects both. This has been happening for years.

CP – I’ve had this problem off and on over the years. It happens less these days than it did before plaquenil. Though I have no idea if that is what made the difference. But it still happens. Most of the time I wake up with my ear very sore from sleeping on one side for too long. <shrug> yet more weird stuff.

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KCat I am so glad you brought this up. Another good example of how we just adjust ourselves to certain symptoms and write them off as normal. HELLLO (to myself) I have had this problem for so many years and it has gotten really bad recently. Sometimes I try to clear my ears myself which I am sure is a horrible thing to do but it can drive you nuts. I am eager to read more about this and solutions you all have found. Many thanks. Nicole C.

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What to expect from the audiologist

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I have a moderate loss in one ear and a moderately severe loss in the other. An audiologist at a not-for-profit rehab hospital hearing and balance center fits and dispenses ReSound and Prisma. I was sent to this audiologist for testing by an ENT from a large medical group. I decided to get a second opinion on my sudden hearing loss and that ENT physician had me take an audiogram at with an audiologist at his practice. They dispense several more types of hearing aids than the rehab hospital. Can someone tell me what kind of aid will likely be suggested: BTE, ITE, CIC? Also, any recommendation on who I should go to–the rehab hospital or the medical group with its own audiologist? Thanks very much. Saul

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if your audiologist sell Starkey hearing aids, then look for another one. Chances are he/she will ask you to buy a new one and stop supporting Starkey hearing aids after 2 years. Even with digital hearing aids, Starkey audiologist just refuse to reprogram their aids and will blackmail you to get a new one. This is my experience with my Starkey audiologist. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Saul Cohen" <sjco…@cableone.net> wrote in message <news:107iv997rs0qg97@corp.supernews.com>… > I have a moderate loss in one ear and a moderately severe loss in the other. > An audiologist at a not-for-profit rehab hospital hearing and balance center > fits and dispenses ReSound and Prisma. I was sent to this audiologist for > testing by an ENT from a large medical group. > I decided to get a second opinion on my sudden hearing loss and that ENT > physician had me take an audiogram at with an audiologist at his practice. > They dispense several more types of hearing aids than the rehab hospital. > Can someone tell me what kind of aid will likely be suggested: BTE, ITE, > CIC? > Also, any recommendation on who I should go to–the rehab hospital or the > medical group with its own audiologist? > Thanks very much. > Saul

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For what it’s worth, let me respond to your message a little bit indirectly by recounting my recent experience. About a month ago, the audiologist at my ENT clinic gave me a hearing test and again recommended getting a hearing aid. Since I was having growing difficulty hearing conversations, particularly with my family members, I decided to do so. The audiologist fits several brands of aids, but recommended the Resound Canta 7 in a BTE model, a recommendation I accepted. Since then, I have been back to her twice to make adjustments to the programming of the aids, and, between the adjustments made to the programming and my simply getting used to hearing sounds I have not heard in a long time, the performance of those aids is quite satisfactory. Nothing is perfect, and, as they say, HA’s will not restore normal hearing, but the improvement in my ability to hear everything that is going on around me is so significant, I guarantee you I will never be without the HA’s again. Based on this experience, and on the research I did during the process, I offer the following advice. 1) It is important to have some confidence in the ability of your audiologist or dispenser to identify a HA model that suits your requirments (though it strikes me that most models will probably work for most losses). It seems to me even more important that you be confident you can communicate clearly with your audiologist so that he or she can make the appropriate adjustments to your aids during the adjustment process. In short, some promise of a good relationship with the fitter is important in your choice of the source of your aids. 2) Pay attention to the audiologist’s recommendation of brand and model. Her recommendation may not be the absolutely essential determinant of your choice, but what it means is that the audiologist believes the model is suitable for you and is within her capability to program to match your requirements. 3) Unless there are other factors in play (and there could be) it is not unlikely a BTE aid will be recommended because they offer several advantages over other types. Talk this point over with your audiologist. For my own part, I find my BTE’s quite inconspicuous, though obviously not invisible. I got them made in a charcoal gray color which blends in well with my hair. Regardless of their appearance, the hearing improvement is so dramatic that cosmetics are the last thing I worry about. I hope this helps – courage and perserverence. On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 11:15:03 -0600, Saul Cohen <sjco…@cableone.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a moderate loss in one ear and a moderately severe loss in the > other. > An audiologist at a not-for-profit rehab hospital hearing and balance > center > fits and dispenses ReSound and Prisma. I was sent to this audiologist > for > testing by an ENT from a large medical group. > I decided to get a second opinion on my sudden hearing loss and that ENT > physician had me take an audiogram at with an audiologist at his > practice. > They dispense several more types of hearing aids than the rehab hospital. > Can someone tell me what kind of aid will likely be suggested: BTE, ITE, > CIC? > Also, any recommendation on who I should go to–the rehab hospital or the > medical group with its own audiologist? > Thanks very much. > Saul

– Larry Smith

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I don’t understand this comment. My audiologist sells Starkey as well as other brands. I have owned Starkeys in the past and I did not experience the two year rule. The first Starkey I owned lasted 14 years and I decided to replace it with new aids for both ears. The original was working when I stopped wearing it. The second set of Starkeys lasted six years when I decided to upgrade to new models again. They were still working but I made the decision to upgrade. I am wearing a different brand now only because I tried four different brands and I liked the sound of the brand I selected best. I am sure there are bad audiologist around, but I would not automatically lump all Starkey audiologist in on group. I am sure that if we looked hard enough, we could find a problem with audiologists that sell other brands too. Matt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Jerome Tan wrote: > if your audiologist sell Starkey hearing aids, then look for another > one. Chances are he/she will ask you to buy a new one and stop > supporting Starkey hearing aids after 2 years. > Even with digital hearing aids, Starkey audiologist just refuse to > reprogram their aids and will blackmail you to get a new one. This is > my experience with my Starkey audiologist. > "Saul Cohen" <sjco…@cableone.net> wrote in message <news:107iv997rs0qg97@corp.supernews.com>… >>I have a moderate loss in one ear and a moderately severe loss in the other. >>An audiologist at a not-for-profit rehab hospital hearing and balance center >>fits and dispenses ReSound and Prisma. I was sent to this audiologist for >>testing by an ENT from a large medical group. >>I decided to get a second opinion on my sudden hearing loss and that ENT >>physician had me take an audiogram at with an audiologist at his practice. >>They dispense several more types of hearing aids than the rehab hospital. >>Can someone tell me what kind of aid will likely be suggested: BTE, ITE, >>CIC? >>Also, any recommendation on who I should go to–the rehab hospital or the >>medical group with its own audiologist? >>Thanks very much. >>Saul

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First, Mr. Tan is in a specific geographic market (PI, I think) that may have different rules, different ethical standards, different relationships between dispensers and manufacturers. It is possible that Mr. Tan’s experience reflects the marketing strategy of a national distributor for Starkey in his area, or the tactics of a single dispenser. I don’t know. In the U.S. and western Europe, audiologist standards seem to be high both by professional pressure and by legislative control. There is no reason to believe that offering a particular brand is an indicator of ethical standards, high or low, although some major manufacturers will not allow their products to be offered by outlets that are blatantly free with inappropriate promises and claims, and against which consumer complaints are often filed. I think, and in CA I have seen it. So it may not be a good idea to judge the resource by the products offered… *HOWEVER*, I think there are still some single-product shops for which huge advertising dollars are spent to get the consumer in the door, and great pressure to keep him/her inside. The products are highly advertised, technically unexciting, and barely competent. At one point the Miracle Ear and Beltone brands fit that category. Today, Beltone is owned by Great Nordic (which also owns Danavox, ReSound, and Philips), and is a much more professional product line. I don’t know about today’s Miracle Ear. "Matt Bashore" <bash…@attbi.com> wrote in message

news:bKGfc.147272$w54.972469@attbi_s01… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t understand this comment. My audiologist sells Starkey as well as > other brands. I have owned Starkeys in the past and I did not experience > the two year rule. The first Starkey I owned lasted 14 years and I > decided to replace it with new aids for both ears. The original was > working when I stopped wearing it. The second set of Starkeys lasted six > years when I decided to upgrade to new models again. They were still > working but I made the decision to upgrade. I am wearing a different > brand now only because I tried four different brands and I liked the > sound of the brand I selected best. > I am sure there are bad audiologist around, but I would not > automatically lump all Starkey audiologist in on group. I am sure that > if we looked hard enough, we could find a problem with audiologists that > sell other brands too. > Matt > Jerome Tan wrote: > > if your audiologist sell Starkey hearing aids, then look for another > > one. Chances are he/she will ask you to buy a new one and stop > > supporting Starkey hearing aids after 2 years. > > Even with digital hearing aids, Starkey audiologist just refuse to > > reprogram their aids and will blackmail you to get a new one. This is > > my experience with my Starkey audiologist. > > "Saul Cohen" <sjco…@cableone.net> wrote in message

<news:107iv997rs0qg97@corp.supernews.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >>I have a moderate loss in one ear and a moderately severe loss in the other. > >>An audiologist at a not-for-profit rehab hospital hearing and balance center > >>fits and dispenses ReSound and Prisma. I was sent to this audiologist for > >>testing by an ENT from a large medical group. > >>I decided to get a second opinion on my sudden hearing loss and that ENT > >>physician had me take an audiogram at with an audiologist at his practice. > >>They dispense several more types of hearing aids than the rehab hospital. > >>Can someone tell me what kind of aid will likely be suggested: BTE, ITE, > >>CIC? > >>Also, any recommendation on who I should go to–the rehab hospital or the > >>medical group with its own audiologist? > >>Thanks very much. > >>Saul

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Newly diagnosed sudden hearing loss

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You might become deaf. Better study speachreading now in case you become one of the people allowed to call it "lip reading." Bill

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Go here: www.menieres.org Click on forums and then click on " Our Living Room". You will find a wealth of information on what you are experiencing as well as many, many people who are going through the same thing.

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It can also be autoimmune ear disorder. You can mention this also to your doctor, especially if you have any other autoimmune disorder like psoriasis, rheumatoid arthritis, etc. Regardless, have your doctor direct you to an ENT. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->vertigo,tinnitus, sudden hearing loss… The classic trinity of >Meniere’s Disease. Did they mention this at all ? >—-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- >http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups >—= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—

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Depending on how long time ago the onset of your hearing loss is, there are some different approaches, but first you have to specify your conditions further: 1. Did your hearing loss have sudden onset (within hours) ? 2. How long ago? 3. Did you start prednisone immediately? 4. Has anything changed in your way of life just before your hearing loss? 5. What else have you tried in order to fix your hearing loss? If your hearing loss was sudden, then there might be many reasons to what has caused it: – Sudden trauma (injury to the head/loud noise exposure) – Medical reasons (allergies, ototoxic medication, etc) – Blood supply to the inner ear possibly has decreased – Infection – And many more reasons… Depending on the specific reason to your hearing loss different action should be taken. If, for instance, you have an infection, Prednisone is a good way to try, though it deminished brood supply. So if the reason is within the realm of blood supply Prednisone is definitely not the right way to go. Usually (in about 60% cases) sudden deafness goea away by itself within 10 days or so. Not necessarily completely, but it betters. I know (as I suffer from it myself) that you then almost panically wish to try any action in stead of just waiting. And I advice you to do so. I waited and nothing happened and when I tried different approches it was already too late. I can also suggest HBO or HyperBaricOxygen treatment, where you enter a pressure chamber (like the ones divers use) and inhale either pure oxygen or carbogen. It has helped some, but has no documented effect. The theory behind this is that increased pressure+increased oxygen supply should help your body recover faster. Also try to rule out allergies or Menieres disseace. Perhaps you even have a fistula (hole) in your inner ear allowing fluid levels to make a change in pressure levels? You can probably see that from your audiogram; Midtone loss can perhaps indicate this. Hope this helped – just ask /Rack – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Saul Cohen wrote: > I know this is not the place to complain. There are many people with > serious hearing problems. But, this is such a shock to me, I have a few > questions that some one may be able to help with. > After 52 years of average hearing, I started to decline late last year. In > late December of 2003 I had 96% and 92% word recognition abilities, and some > odd downward peaks in an audiogram. Now, in March of 2004, I have 80% and > 60% word recognition, and a fairly flat line of loss, about 30+ db off the > norm. > I have nearly constant tinnitus, a shower-like rushing of water. I had one > bad episode of vertigo and vomiting just before the end of the year. > The audiologist and the ENT physician have never been optimistic. I’m on > Prednisone now, but given little hope of it being effective. I am on > Valtrex as well, with the same minimal expectations. Also, the audiologist > says that hearing aids will up the volume but will do nothing to help my > word recognition. I hate to be ungrateful, but what kind of help is this? > Can anyone tell me what is going on? Should I be looking for some better > medical care? > Thanks very much > Saul

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vertigo,tinnitus, sudden hearing loss… The classic trinity of Meniere’s Disease. Did they mention this at all ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->After 52 years of average hearing, I started to decline late last year. In >late December of 2003 I had 96% and 92% word recognition abilities, and some >odd downward peaks in an audiogram. Now, in March of 2004, I have 80% and >60% word recognition, and a fairly flat line of loss, about 30+ db off the >norm. >I have nearly constant tinnitus, a shower-like rushing of water. I had one >bad episode of vertigo and vomiting just before the end of the year. >The audiologist and the ENT physician have never been optimistic. I’m on >Prednisone now, but given little hope of it being effective. I am on >Valtrex as well, with the same minimal expectations. Also, the audiologist >says that hearing aids will up the volume but will do nothing to help my >word recognition. I hate to be ungrateful, but what kind of help is this? >Can anyone tell me what is going on? Should I be looking for some better >medical care? >Thanks very much >Saul

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You may want to look into long term antibiotic therapy for a possible mycoplasmal infection. "Saul Cohen" <sjco…@cableone.net> wrote in message

news:104qmt6ik4a6m77@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know this is not the place to complain. There are many people with > serious hearing problems. But, this is such a shock to me, I have a few > questions that some one may be able to help with. > After 52 years of average hearing, I started to decline late last year. In > late December of 2003 I had 96% and 92% word recognition abilities, and some > odd downward peaks in an audiogram. Now, in March of 2004, I have 80% and > 60% word recognition, and a fairly flat line of loss, about 30+ db off the > norm. > I have nearly constant tinnitus, a shower-like rushing of water. I had one > bad episode of vertigo and vomiting just before the end of the year. > The audiologist and the ENT physician have never been optimistic. I’m on > Prednisone now, but given little hope of it being effective. I am on > Valtrex as well, with the same minimal expectations. Also, the audiologist > says that hearing aids will up the volume but will do nothing to help my > word recognition. I hate to be ungrateful, but what kind of help is this? > Can anyone tell me what is going on? Should I be looking for some better > medical care? > Thanks very much > Saul

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Hi Saul, Well my speech discrimination in my left ear is far worse than the levels you mention. I have a powerful Widex BTE in that ear which improves the understanding of speech dramatically. Admittedly, there are problems in noisy environments and if I’m unable to face the speaker, but that hearing aid was well worth the investment, and I wouldn’t be without it. Regards, Maree "Saul Cohen" <sjco…@cableone.net> wrote in message

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I know this is not the place to complain. There are many people with serious hearing problems. But, this is such a shock to me, I have a few questions that some one may be able to help with. After 52 years of average hearing, I started to decline late last year. In late December of 2003 I had 96% and 92% word recognition abilities, and some odd downward peaks in an audiogram. Now, in March of 2004, I have 80% and 60% word recognition, and a fairly flat line of loss, about 30+ db off the norm. I have nearly constant tinnitus, a shower-like rushing of water. I had one bad episode of vertigo and vomiting just before the end of the year. The audiologist and the ENT physician have never been optimistic. I’m on Prednisone now, but given little hope of it being effective. I am on Valtrex as well, with the same minimal expectations. Also, the audiologist says that hearing aids will up the volume but will do nothing to help my word recognition. I hate to be ungrateful, but what kind of help is this? Can anyone tell me what is going on? Should I be looking for some better medical care? Thanks very much Saul

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Noise in my left ear

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In article <5ll1c.3664$G41….@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>, Cindy <cindy…@somewhere.com> wrote >That explains it all…. >Does Pigmet have a plan on what to do about these ants…I think that I am >tired of listening to the silly things.

Marry them off to uncles? — Andy [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

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Cute Andy

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Yay, Andy!! that’s a very good idea Pigmet "Cindy" <cindy…@somewhere.com> wrote in message

news:HCm1c.7300$ds3.6808@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Cute Andy

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In article <bsl1c.3666$te1.2…@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>, "Cindy" <cindy…@somewhere.com> wrote: > Actually, Mine is described as Acute Sudden Hearing Loss.

Mine was diagnosed as Meniere’s (I also have a lot of dizziness at times – -no kidding, right?). Sometimes the shrill sound in my ear is enough to drown out the TV! I take meclezine and phenergan when all the symptoms are too much. — "Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." – Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather

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That explains it all…. Does Pigmet have a plan on what to do about these ants…I think that I am tired of listening to the silly things. Hugs Cindy

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Actually, Mine is described as Acute Sudden Hearing Loss. Eventually I was sent to the right specialist who did a MRI…He was looking to make sure I didn’t have an acoustic neuroma…Basically a tumor on the ear nerve… Lucky for me I lost my hearing…I didn’t have a tumor on the ear, but they found a tumor in my Right Cavernous Sinus….Actually it had nothing to do with my hearing loss, but we found it when it was still small enough that they could gammaknife it…Had it continued to grow, It could have affected my eyes and made my face fall..I did have to have brain surgery to do a biopsy. It was a schwannoma and benign… I am rambling…Bottom line is they decided a virus had caused my hearing loss…Now I hear a constant shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and sometimes ringing.

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Hello David, It’s called Tinnitus: http://www.entnet.org/healthinfo/hearing/tinnitus.cfm I have it in both ears & Meniere’s can be a cause of it, but I am curious. Do you have vertigo & nausea? Meniere’s disease is thought to be an autoimmune disorder. So, even though hearing loss may not be common in Lupus, it doesn’t mean that you can’t have another autoimmune disorder with the Lupus. My autoimmune hearing loss began like yours. I suddenly started hearing a whisping wind type noise & the hearing loss came on in the left ear & then came back. Doctor’s didn’t have a clue. Then, the left ear did it again about a year later. Long story short, if I could do it over again, with what I know now, I would’ve chained myself to a gurney until they agreed to do an MRI right then & there! If they had taken it seriously, I could’ve saved the majority of my hearing. Instead, I lost the majority of it. If I were you, I’d insist upon an MRI to be sure there’s no inflammation. Let your Lupus doctor know what’s happening & keep them communicating with each other. Steroids, whether by mouth or intraveneously, will bring the inflammation down & minimize the damage, but it’s something that needs to be done fairly quickly. The intraveneous route is the best way to go, in my opinion. They give you a high dose for three days or so. I also think that Meniere’s can cause fluctuations in the hearing, but if you haven’t had major dizziness & nausea on & off, then that’s good reason to doubt the diagnosis they’ve given you. If you have dizziness & nausea now, because of this hearing loss, then it doesn’t mean it’s Meniere’s. I was unable to walk straight *or* ride in a wheelchair & I did not have Meniere’s. Hearing loss alone can give you these symptoms. Please……call the doctor, insist on an MRI asap & be safe, rather than sorry. Maggie

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You have a basement now! the ants have dug one for you. The ants are simple folk, and they only put out sound in mono, not stereo, which explains why you only have one ear affected. Mair "Cindy" <cindy…@somewhere.com> wrote in message

news:I5c1c.3212$uv.1023523933@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You know Mair, I didn’t know I had a basement. Maybe I should start looking > for it…LOL… > Thanks anyway.. > Hugs Cindy

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David, I have the same problem with my right ear…However I do not have lupus…I have fibromyalgia. I lost my hearing suddenly one day. No apparent reason at all. Doctor said it could have been caused by a virus… Cindy

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Have you guys checked your basements? Maybe the giant ants are having a 50-year reunion! I am sorry for your hearing loss… I wish I knew something about it… but I don’t. Mair "Cindy" <cindy…@somewhere.com> wrote in message

news:8%91c.7199$Vp7.3364@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> David, > I have the same problem with my right ear…However I do not have lupus…I > have fibromyalgia. I lost my hearing suddenly one day. No apparent reason at > all. Doctor said it could have been caused by a virus… > Cindy

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You know Mair, I didn’t know I had a basement. Maybe I should start looking for it…LOL… Thanks anyway.. Hugs Cindy

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Hi, I have completely lost my hearing on my left ear the only thing that I hear is a constant noise, sometimes very loud, similar to the one that the ants made in the 1954 sc-fi movie Them! Does anyone know if this is related to lupus? At one point the otolaryngologist was treating it as Meniere’s Disease. Thanks, David

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Inner ear infection

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Hi all This seems like the right group. I have an inner ear infection in my left lug. It was in the labrynth at first and was making me dizzy but I think it has now moved into my cochlea as I am now experiencing hearing problems. It is not painfull but because the fluid has changed in density I am having like a static dopler effect (ambulance passing by)/ring modulation effect when I listen to music. This seems more accute with purer sine like tones. Sounds like bells ringing and it is also ringing constantly. Basicaly one ear is out of tune in reference to the ok lug. I have been to the doc but was told nothing can be done as it is most likely a viral infection. Is this true? Also… Q: Has anyone experienced this? Q: Does it go away? I’ve had it for about 10 days now and it’s doing my head in. Thanks if you can advise. ) Scotoma

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Scotoma asks: "Q: Has anyone experienced this? Q: Does it go away? I’ve had it for about 10 days now and it’s doing my head in." Many people have experianced this. I’ve never heard of it going away. Perhaps for most people it does, and they don’t report the absence. No doubt you are considering the dreary possibility that it will never pass, and wondering if there is any limit to how loud it can become. To the best of my knoweledge, there is no limit to how loud unreal noise can be. Maybe you are becoming deaf in one ear. Folks often believe that deafness is silence, but it’s not always so. It can be a condition of so much noise that none of it is usefull. So the afflicted person starts to ignore real noises because it’s so hard and tireing to sort what’s real from what isn’t. Go see more doctors. Bill M

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Scotoma" <m…@play.co.uk> wrote: >Hi all >This seems like the right group. I have an inner ear infection in my left >lug. It was in the labrynth at first and was making me dizzy but I think it >has now moved into my cochlea as I am now experiencing hearing problems. It >is not painfull but because the fluid has changed in density I am having >like a static dopler effect (ambulance passing by)/ring modulation effect >when I listen to music. This seems more accute with purer sine like tones. >Sounds like bells ringing and it is also ringing constantly. Basicaly one >ear is out of tune in reference to the ok lug. I have been to the doc but >was told nothing can be done as it is most likely a viral infection. Is this >true? Also… >Q: Has anyone experienced this? >Q: Does it go away? >I’ve had it for about 10 days now and it’s doing my head in. >Thanks if you can advise. ) >Scotoma

See: http://www.earinfosite.org/ Dennis

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"Bill M" <bmag…@nethere.com> wrote in message

news:1076286688.531803@news-1.nethere.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Scotoma asks: > "Q: Has anyone experienced this? > Q: Does it go away? > I’ve had it for about 10 days now and it’s doing my head in." > Many people have experianced this. I’ve never heard of it going away. > Perhaps for most people it does, and they don’t report the absence. No > doubt you are considering the dreary possibility that it will never pass, > and wondering if there is any limit to how loud it can become. To the best > of my knoweledge, there is no limit to how loud unreal noise can be. > Maybe you are becoming deaf in one ear. Folks often believe that deafness > is silence, but it’s not always so. It can be a condition of so much noise > that none of it is usefull. So the afflicted person starts to ignore real > noises because it’s so hard and tireing to sort what’s real from what isn’t. > Go see more doctors. > Bill M

Hi Bill M It seems to be clearing up but I will go to see another doc incase it is a bacterial infection. I don’t have vertigo anymore and the ringing is getting quieter, just this anoying de-tuning which seems to be towards the upper end of the audio spectrum. Thanks for your reply. ) Scotoma )

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"Dennis G." <deg…@telus.net> wrote in message

news:uvnd20lp32mcr7o2dpne0c05lgvn5ujllk@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Scotoma" <m…@play.co.uk> wrote: > >Hi all > >This seems like the right group. I have an inner ear infection in my left > >lug. It was in the labrynth at first and was making me dizzy but I think it > >has now moved into my cochlea as I am now experiencing hearing problems. It > >is not painfull but because the fluid has changed in density I am having > >like a static dopler effect (ambulance passing by)/ring modulation effect > >when I listen to music. This seems more accute with purer sine like tones. > >Sounds like bells ringing and it is also ringing constantly. Basicaly one > >ear is out of tune in reference to the ok lug. I have been to the doc but > >was told nothing can be done as it is most likely a viral infection. Is this > >true? Also… > >Q: Has anyone experienced this? > >Q: Does it go away? > >I’ve had it for about 10 days now and it’s doing my head in. > >Thanks if you can advise. ) > >Scotoma > See: http://www.earinfosite.org/ > Dennis

Hi Dennis Cheers for the link. ) Scotoma

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I’d like to know, did your symptoms come suddently? (over a couple of hours/instantly) or gradually? Good to know that your symptoms seem to go away. I can recognize the parts of the ring modulator, etc – and I have sudden deafness on one ear. Currently it is treated with a HA, though that only give me a minor sense of stereo. I do not have my complete hearing back. I would like to know, can anyone explain why the "ring modulation", echoes and other distortions occur? I mean.. isn’t it just damaged hair cells? Should that not just result in decreased hearing? /Rack – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Scotoma wrote: > Hi all > This seems like the right group. I have an inner ear infection in my left > lug. It was in the labrynth at first and was making me dizzy but I think it > has now moved into my cochlea as I am now experiencing hearing problems. It > is not painfull but because the fluid has changed in density I am having > like a static dopler effect (ambulance passing by)/ring modulation effect > when I listen to music. This seems more accute with purer sine like tones. > Sounds like bells ringing and it is also ringing constantly. Basicaly one > ear is out of tune in reference to the ok lug. I have been to the doc but > was told nothing can be done as it is most likely a viral infection. Is this > true? Also… > Q: Has anyone experienced this? > Q: Does it go away? > I’ve had it for about 10 days now and it’s doing my head in. > Thanks if you can advise. ) > Scotoma

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"rack" <x…@x.com> wrote in message

news:Ob7Wb.3052$%o6.2637@news.get2net.dk… > I’d like to know, did your symptoms come suddently? (over a couple of > hours/instantly) or gradually? > Good to know that your symptoms seem to go away. I can recognize the > parts of the ring modulator, etc – and I have sudden deafness on one > ear. Currently it is treated with a HA, though that only give me a minor > sense of stereo. I do not have my complete hearing back. I would like to > know, can anyone explain why the "ring modulation", echoes and other > distortions occur? I mean.. isn’t it just damaged hair cells? Should > that not just result in decreased hearing? > /Rack

Hi Rack The dizzyness came on suddenly. Well, I woke up with it. I think I got it from showering late at night and sleeping with damp lugs but it could have got in through my sinus, who knows. Could have also come from over cleaning my ears with shower etc. I am guessing when I say that the density of the fluid has changed so the sound waves would travel through at a different speed, resulting in a de-tuning effect relative to the good lug. The de-tuning has still not cleared up yet so it may be bits of stuff floating about in my cochlear or it could be nerve damage. I have read that it can take weeks to heal and having once had a numb toe, I know nerves can take a while to heal. I prefer the bits floating about thought though.. Being a musician I find this quite disturbing and from a musicians point of veiw I would rather have no hearing in one ear than not be able to listen and play music because of the dischord. I am sorry to read of your hearing loss. What is HA? Scotoma – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Scotoma wrote: > > Hi all > > This seems like the right group. I have an inner ear infection in my left > > lug. It was in the labrynth at first and was making me dizzy but I think it > > has now moved into my cochlea as I am now experiencing hearing problems. It > > is not painfull but because the fluid has changed in density I am having > > like a static dopler effect (ambulance passing by)/ring modulation effect > > when I listen to music. This seems more accute with purer sine like tones. > > Sounds like bells ringing and it is also ringing constantly. Basicaly one > > ear is out of tune in reference to the ok lug. I have been to the doc but > > was told nothing can be done as it is most likely a viral infection. Is this > > true? Also… > > Q: Has anyone experienced this? > > Q: Does it go away? > > I’ve had it for about 10 days now and it’s doing my head in. > > Thanks if you can advise. ) > > Scotoma

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"Scotoma" <m…@play.co.uk> wrote in message

news:EH8Wb.12810$cL.729@news-lhr.blueyonder.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "rack" <x…@x.com> wrote in message > news:Ob7Wb.3052$%o6.2637@news.get2net.dk… > > I’d like to know, did your symptoms come suddently? (over a couple of > > hours/instantly) or gradually? > > Good to know that your symptoms seem to go away. I can recognize the > > parts of the ring modulator, etc – and I have sudden deafness on one > > ear. Currently it is treated with a HA, though that only give me a minor > > sense of stereo. I do not have my complete hearing back. I would like to > > know, can anyone explain why the "ring modulation", echoes and other > > distortions occur? I mean.. isn’t it just damaged hair cells? Should > > that not just result in decreased hearing? > > /Rack > Hi Rack > The dizzyness came on suddenly. Well, I woke up with it. I think I got it > from showering late at night and sleeping with damp lugs but it could have > got in through my sinus, who knows. Could have also come from over cleaning > my ears with shower etc. I am guessing when I say that the density of the > fluid has changed so the sound waves would travel through at a different > speed, resulting in a de-tuning effect relative to the good lug. The > de-tuning has still not cleared up yet so it may be bits of stuff floating > about in my cochlear or it could be nerve damage. I have read that it can > take weeks to heal and having once had a numb toe, I know nerves can take a > while to heal. I prefer the bits floating about thought though.. Being a > musician I find this quite disturbing and from a musicians point of veiw I > would rather have no hearing in one ear than not be able to listen and play > music because of the dischord. I am sorry to read of your hearing loss. What > is HA?

Don’t matter. I see now what it is. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Scotoma > > Scotoma wrote: > > > Hi all > > > This seems like the right group. I have an inner ear infection in my > left > > > lug. It was in the labrynth at first and was making me dizzy but I think > it > > > has now moved into my cochlea as I am now experiencing hearing problems. > It > > > is not painfull but because the fluid has changed in density I am having > > > like a static dopler effect (ambulance passing by)/ring modulation > effect > > > when I listen to music. This seems more accute with purer sine like > tones. > > > Sounds like bells ringing and it is also ringing constantly. Basicaly > one > > > ear is out of tune in reference to the ok lug. I have been to the doc > but > > > was told nothing can be done as it is most likely a viral infection. Is > this > > > true? Also… > > > Q: Has anyone experienced this? > > > Q: Does it go away? > > > I’ve had it for about 10 days now and it’s doing my head in. > > > Thanks if you can advise. ) > > > Scotoma

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again, I'm new; how does other peoples' T sound?

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Hi Robin- I found a website which suggests human hearing ranges up to 20,000 Hz: http://ccms.ntu.edu.tw/~karchung/Phonetics%20II%20page%20fourteen.htm However, I have to admit I probably can’t hear above about 11,000 Hz even in my ‘good’ ear. Carl "Robin" <Nos…@attbi.com> wrote in message

news:iDxqa.96907$Si4.74790@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It is possible that the Freq. Generator is generating a harmonic to your > tone as well and you are reacting to that. 12,500 is high indeed. In fact I > "believe" it is extremely close to the edge of perceived hearing for most > folks > Robin > "ShrkAtty" <shrka…@aol.com> wrote in message > news:20030426014852.22022.00000134@mb-m11.aol.com… > > >"Martin" wrote in message > > >> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? > > >> If you go to the following link you can download a tone generator > > >> where you can place different values fro a range of frequencies. > > >> http://www.world-voices.com/software/nchtone.html > > >> Martin > > Good Lord! Is that tone generator anything close to accurate?? > > I started at 3000 Hz–coudn’t get a "match" until 12,500 Hz–I knew it was > > high-pitched but this is ridiculous! No wonder it cuts through everything > > )) > > (And either I’ve got crappy speakers or I cant hear anything above 14,500 > > Hz–not that it much matters > > RHaj

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The best (most understandable?) explanation of T. I have read is similar to you what you wrote, Terri. That T. is caused by damage to the hair cells which, when damaged, send out erratic, flawed signals, which the brain perceives as T. Something like "phantom pain" that amputees feel. I guess that would explain why T. and hearing loss are related. <terri…@knowspam.mam> wrote in message

news:3eaaa9e4.8357073@news.warpnet.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:20:07 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> > wrote: > >Terri- > >Since T started, I thought once late at night I heard faint music, but with > >noises in the neighborhood and from my kid’s rooms a possibility, I wasn’t > >sure. > >Carl > I would normally have been suspicious, but I can’t hear anything at > all without my hearing aid (except T). With my hearing aid, I am used > to hearing sounds that I can’t identify. Without the aid, I once > turned the TV volume up to the highest setting (60 on my TV) to see if > I could hear it, and I could just barely make out some sound going on. > I think it is just my mind trying to make sense out of the "noise" > which is sometimes all that T is – an input of some kind that your > mind is trying to interpret and interprets it as a sound. I also > considered the possibility that because it is on weekends only, maybe > my fillings are picking up a radio frequency like on Gilligan’s Island > . > Terri > ><terri…@knowspam.mam> wrote in message > >news:3ea9fd78.7966887@news.warpnet.net… > >> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> > >> wrote: > >> >I would like to thank everyone who responded to my earlier message. > >> >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? > >> >Early in the day mine is like a Cicada, but somewhat higher pitch. Later > >in > >> >the day, it is like listening to a gas flowing through a pipe at high > >speed, > >> >and later at night it usually is like a whistle. As the pitch goes up so > >> >does the intensity. > >> >Is all T high pitched? > >> >the source of mine is apparently a high speed dentist’s drill during some > >> >dental surgery to remove some bone in my jaw. My audiologist and ear > >doctor > >> >told me that in my left ear I have an increasing loss of most high > >frequency > >> >hearing above 3000Hz with a pronounced dip at 4000Hz. They said the > >> >acoustics of the ear required this have been cause by a sound at 6000Hz > >> >above 85db. I checked on the internet and found that dental drills have a > >> >sound peak at 6000Hz with 110db power, more than enough to cause the > >damage. > >> >Does this make sense? > >> >Thanks, Carl > >> For me it is cicadas, mostly. Today I hear almost no sound. A few > >> days ago, it sounded and felt like millions of them surrounded my > >> head. I’ve not heard a whistle and I don’t know what gas flowing > >> through a pipe sounds like because I am hearing impaired. > >> Some nights (weekends mostly) I get the faint sound of a far away > >> radio playing big band music in one ear. If I listen closely, I can > >> almost make out the melody which is fascinating because I can’t hear > >> anything out of that ear. Although it is very soft, the music is > >> quite "crisp" like an old transistor radio. Other nights, the music > >> sound is replaced by a very faint "electronic bug zapper" sound in > >> that ear. > >> In the other ear, I get some rather loud random clicks and pops on top > >> of the cicada sound and that is mostly in the daytime. I think I > >> notice all of it more at night because it is very quiet at home > >> compared to work and I am usually too busy to notice it when working. > >> When there is a low pressure weather system, the sounds in general get > >> louder. > >> Terri

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>From: "Socket" >The best (most understandable?) explanation of T. I have read is similar to >you what you wrote, Terri. That T. is caused by damage to the hair cells >which, when damaged, send out erratic, flawed signals, which the brain >perceives as T. Something like "phantom pain" that amputees feel. I guess >that would explain why T. and hearing loss are related.

The bent-hair-cell theory has been around for about 30 years–it makes a certain amount of sense at the theoretic level. And it may actually account for some cases of hearing loss, but it does nothing to account for sudden-onset, "idiopathic" tinnitus–which I suspect are the majority of cases. And I have an opinion of "medical science" and some of its theories–but I’ll save that rant for a time when I’m feeling particularly surly RHaj

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shrka…@aol.com (ShrkAtty) wrote in part: >Well . . . this system is sort of "Jurassic." Small Advent speakers & a sound >card out of the dark ages. I thought maybe the program itself had an upper and >lower frequency limit–till I boosted the gain. . . .but I still can’t pick up >on anything below 75 Hz or above 14,500 Hz. I don’t know now if its my hearing >or an equipment limitation. I’m thinking the latter because I know I can hear >below 75 Hz (and there’s nothing over 14.5 kHz I would even WANT to hear >:-)))) >Anyone else notice this?? >RHaj

Equipment/testing limitations. Audiological testing is pretty demanding in terms of both equipment and quiet. — Jim Chinnis / Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA Want to discuss Meniere’s? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG

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NCH Tone/Waveform Generator is a great link. I’m curious does anyone else have any good links for free audio generating software or links to public domain audio files ? Any help would be appreciated. Sonny

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On 26 Apr 2003 16:24:20 -0700, so…@buzzberg.com (Sonny) wrote: >NCH Tone/Waveform Generator is a great link. I’m curious does anyone >else have any good links for free audio generating software or links >to public domain audio files ? Any help would be appreciated. >Sonny

I must be missing something from your post. What type of audio files are you looking for? Terri

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> I must be missing something from your post. What type of audio files > are you looking for? > Terri

Basically I’m looking for wav. files in the public domain or "free to use without obligation." Relaxation pieces, masking sounds, etc. A good idea has been discussed in various forums before about a "T" CD or CD’s being produced for cost. What I’m trying to do in my spare time is gather some resorces for this and get together what is/will be accumulated and make it availible freely via the web. Kinda like an open source, GNU thing. If I made any sense, it was shearly(sp?) by accident. Sonny

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On 27 Apr 2003 01:05:28 -0700, so…@buzzberg.com (Sonny) wrote: >> I must be missing something from your post. What type of audio files >> are you looking for? >> Terri >Basically I’m looking for wav. files in the public domain or "free to >use without obligation." Relaxation pieces, masking sounds, etc. A >good idea has been discussed in various forums before about a "T" CD >or CD’s being produced for cost. What I’m trying to do in my spare >time is gather some resorces for this and get together what is/will be >accumulated and make it availible freely via the web. Kinda like an >open source, GNU thing. If I made any sense, it was shearly(sp?) by >accident. >Sonny

There’s a program that Capt Ron posted here over the summer that has those relaxation sounds that really helps when working on the computer. The author is Peter Hirschberg and the software is called Aire Freshener 2.0. I don’t have the url but that should be enough to help you locate it. I spent a lot of time looking for .wav files that were relaxation pieces. This is the closest I’ve come other than just little demos. I if you want to listen to it on a CD or something, I don’t know if that is possible. Terri

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>From: "Carl Dirk" >I am not an expert, but there are two considerations, one is the frequency >synthesizer, and if you have a good sound card, audio frequencies should be >reasonably accurately rendered. The other issue is power. That program that >Martin pointed me to has the capability to adjust output in dB. It is much >more likely the power adjustments could be faulty for your equipment than >the frequency adjustments since the power will be more affected by the >capacitance and resistance characteristics of your circuitry.

Well . . . this system is sort of "Jurassic." Small Advent speakers & a sound card out of the dark ages. I thought maybe the program itself had an upper and lower frequency limit–till I boosted the gain. . . .but I still can’t pick up on anything below 75 Hz or above 14,500 Hz. I don’t know now if its my hearing or an equipment limitation. I’m thinking the latter because I know I can hear below 75 Hz (and there’s nothing over 14.5 kHz I would even WANT to hear ))) Anyone else notice this?? RHaj

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Thanks Robin. I am learning that different people are hearing different things than me. I think mine is at my main hearing loss frequency of 4000Hz. At 4000hz, I can hear nothing in my left ear except the T, though I’ve lost a lot of high frequency hearing in the ear from 3000Hz on up. Carl "Robin" <Nos…@attbi.com> wrote in message

news:pAxqa.360918$OV.378255@rwcrnsc54… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you want to know exactly what mine sounds like generate a tone that is > 5328 Hz. At that tone I am so close to it that it either feels like I have a > knife being slowly rotated in my head or it is completely gone depending on > whether it is in or out of phase with my head (wish I had that fine a > control to make it stay out) > If you are curious that is………… offering you a moment inside my head > from afar > Robin > "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> wrote in message > news:u7nqa.12561$ac.855601@twister.austin.rr.com… > > Thanks Martin > > "Martin" <oh_brother_where_art_t…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:rcvjav4ongh85h50rcra2c9usq7ho3vh6k@4ax.com… > > > On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> > > > wrote: > > > >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? > > > If you go to the following link you can download a tone generator > > > where you can place different values fro a range of frequencies. > > > http://www.world-voices.com/software/nchtone.html > > > Martin

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:20:07 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> wrote: >Terri- >Since T started, I thought once late at night I heard faint music, but with >noises in the neighborhood and from my kid’s rooms a possibility, I wasn’t >sure. >Carl

I would normally have been suspicious, but I can’t hear anything at all without my hearing aid (except T). With my hearing aid, I am used to hearing sounds that I can’t identify. Without the aid, I once turned the TV volume up to the highest setting (60 on my TV) to see if I could hear it, and I could just barely make out some sound going on. I think it is just my mind trying to make sense out of the "noise" which is sometimes all that T is – an input of some kind that your mind is trying to interpret and interprets it as a sound. I also considered the possibility that because it is on weekends only, maybe my fillings are picking up a radio frequency like on Gilligan’s Island . Terri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -><terri…@knowspam.mam> wrote in message >news:3ea9fd78.7966887@news.warpnet.net… >> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >I would like to thank everyone who responded to my earlier message. >> >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? >> >Early in the day mine is like a Cicada, but somewhat higher pitch. Later >in >> >the day, it is like listening to a gas flowing through a pipe at high >speed, >> >and later at night it usually is like a whistle. As the pitch goes up so >> >does the intensity. >> >Is all T high pitched? >> >the source of mine is apparently a high speed dentist’s drill during some >> >dental surgery to remove some bone in my jaw. My audiologist and ear >doctor >> >told me that in my left ear I have an increasing loss of most high >frequency >> >hearing above 3000Hz with a pronounced dip at 4000Hz. They said the >> >acoustics of the ear required this have been cause by a sound at 6000Hz >> >above 85db. I checked on the internet and found that dental drills have a >> >sound peak at 6000Hz with 110db power, more than enough to cause the >damage. >> >Does this make sense? >> >Thanks, Carl >> For me it is cicadas, mostly. Today I hear almost no sound. A few >> days ago, it sounded and felt like millions of them surrounded my >> head. I’ve not heard a whistle and I don’t know what gas flowing >> through a pipe sounds like because I am hearing impaired. >> Some nights (weekends mostly) I get the faint sound of a far away >> radio playing big band music in one ear. If I listen closely, I can >> almost make out the melody which is fascinating because I can’t hear >> anything out of that ear. Although it is very soft, the music is >> quite "crisp" like an old transistor radio. Other nights, the music >> sound is replaced by a very faint "electronic bug zapper" sound in >> that ear. >> In the other ear, I get some rather loud random clicks and pops on top >> of the cicada sound and that is mostly in the daytime. I think I >> notice all of it more at night because it is very quiet at home >> compared to work and I am usually too busy to notice it when working. >> When there is a low pressure weather system, the sounds in general get >> louder. >> Terri

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I would like to thank everyone who responded to my earlier message. I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? Early in the day mine is like a Cicada, but somewhat higher pitch. Later in the day, it is like listening to a gas flowing through a pipe at high speed, and later at night it usually is like a whistle. As the pitch goes up so does the intensity. Is all T high pitched? the source of mine is apparently a high speed dentist’s drill during some dental surgery to remove some bone in my jaw. My audiologist and ear doctor told me that in my left ear I have an increasing loss of most high frequency hearing above 3000Hz with a pronounced dip at 4000Hz. They said the acoustics of the ear required this have been cause by a sound at 6000Hz above 85db. I checked on the internet and found that dental drills have a sound peak at 6000Hz with 110db power, more than enough to cause the damage. Does this make sense? Thanks, Carl

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> wrote: >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like?

If you go to the following link you can download a tone generator where you can place different values fro a range of frequencies. http://www.world-voices.com/software/nchtone.html Martin

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Thanks Martin "Martin" <oh_brother_where_art_t…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:rcvjav4ongh85h50rcra2c9usq7ho3vh6k@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> > wrote: > >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? > If you go to the following link you can download a tone generator > where you can place different values fro a range of frequencies. > http://www.world-voices.com/software/nchtone.html > Martin

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Martin- I really want to thank you again. That tone generator was very useful. I was able to zero in on my frequency dip on my left side and its closer to 3800Hz Carl "Martin" <oh_brother_where_art_t…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I would like to thank everyone who responded to my earlier message. >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? >Early in the day mine is like a Cicada, but somewhat higher pitch. Later in >the day, it is like listening to a gas flowing through a pipe at high speed, >and later at night it usually is like a whistle. As the pitch goes up so >does the intensity. >Is all T high pitched? >the source of mine is apparently a high speed dentist’s drill during some >dental surgery to remove some bone in my jaw. My audiologist and ear doctor >told me that in my left ear I have an increasing loss of most high frequency >hearing above 3000Hz with a pronounced dip at 4000Hz. They said the >acoustics of the ear required this have been cause by a sound at 6000Hz >above 85db. I checked on the internet and found that dental drills have a >sound peak at 6000Hz with 110db power, more than enough to cause the damage. >Does this make sense? >Thanks, Carl

For me it is cicadas, mostly. Today I hear almost no sound. A few days ago, it sounded and felt like millions of them surrounded my head. I’ve not heard a whistle and I don’t know what gas flowing through a pipe sounds like because I am hearing impaired. Some nights (weekends mostly) I get the faint sound of a far away radio playing big band music in one ear. If I listen closely, I can almost make out the melody which is fascinating because I can’t hear anything out of that ear. Although it is very soft, the music is quite "crisp" like an old transistor radio. Other nights, the music sound is replaced by a very faint "electronic bug zapper" sound in that ear. In the other ear, I get some rather loud random clicks and pops on top of the cicada sound and that is mostly in the daytime. I think I notice all of it more at night because it is very quiet at home compared to work and I am usually too busy to notice it when working. When there is a low pressure weather system, the sounds in general get louder. Terri

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Martin wrote: > On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> > wrote: > >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? > If you go to the following link you can download a tone generator > where you can place different values fro a range of frequencies. > http://www.world-voices.com/software/nchtone.html > Martin

Downloaded the tone generator. My T was caused by a severe concussion in a auto accident. What I hear is most like a sine wave 11986Hz. The level varies from day to day, but never goes away. Thanks Martin, very interesting program

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>"Martin" wrote in message >> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? >> If you go to the following link you can download a tone generator >> where you can place different values fro a range of frequencies. >> http://www.world-voices.com/software/nchtone.html >> Martin

Good Lord! Is that tone generator anything close to accurate?? I started at 3000 Hz–coudn’t get a "match" until 12,500 Hz–I knew it was high-pitched but this is ridiculous! No wonder it cuts through everything )) (And either I’ve got crappy speakers or I cant hear anything above 14,500 Hz–not that it much matters RHaj

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:34:50 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> wrote: >Thanks Martin

My pleasure. And I didn’t try to sell you something like Murray does. Martin

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:45:25 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> wrote: >I really want to thank you again. That tone generator was very useful. I was >able to zero in on my frequency dip on my left side and its closer to 3800Hz

I’m flattered….but you are driving a stake in Murray’s heart…hehe. Martin

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On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:17:36 -0600, ")-()-(" <em…@address.com> wrote: >Thanks Martin, very interesting program

My please to direct you to it. Tell Murray that people only get insulted when they are insults themselves. Genuine people here get as much help as I can offer. Martin

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I am not an expert, but there are two considerations, one is the frequency synthesizer, and if you have a good sound card, audio frequencies should be reasonably accurately rendered. The other issue is power. That program that Martin pointed me to has the capability to adjust output in dB. It is much more likely the power adjustments could be faulty for your equipment than the frequency adjustments since the power will be more affected by the capacitance and resistance characteristics of your circuitry. Again, I am not an expert. Perhaps one of you online is. Carl "ShrkAtty" <shrka…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20030426014852.22022.00000134@mb-m11.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >"Martin" wrote in message > >> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> > >> wrote: > >> >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? > >> If you go to the following link you can download a tone generator > >> where you can place different values fro a range of frequencies. > >> http://www.world-voices.com/software/nchtone.html > >> Martin > Good Lord! Is that tone generator anything close to accurate?? > I started at 3000 Hz–coudn’t get a "match" until 12,500 Hz–I knew it was > high-pitched but this is ridiculous! No wonder it cuts through everything > )) > (And either I’ve got crappy speakers or I cant hear anything above 14,500 > Hz–not that it much matters > RHaj

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Terri- Since T started, I thought once late at night I heard faint music, but with noises in the neighborhood and from my kid’s rooms a possibility, I wasn’t sure. Carl <terri…@knowspam.mam> wrote in message

news:3ea9fd78.7966887@news.warpnet.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> > wrote: > >I would like to thank everyone who responded to my earlier message. > >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? > >Early in the day mine is like a Cicada, but somewhat higher pitch. Later in > >the day, it is like listening to a gas flowing through a pipe at high speed, > >and later at night it usually is like a whistle. As the pitch goes up so > >does the intensity. > >Is all T high pitched? > >the source of mine is apparently a high speed dentist’s drill during some > >dental surgery to remove some bone in my jaw. My audiologist and ear doctor > >told me that in my left ear I have an increasing loss of most high frequency > >hearing above 3000Hz with a pronounced dip at 4000Hz. They said the > >acoustics of the ear required this have been cause by a sound at 6000Hz > >above 85db. I checked on the internet and found that dental drills have a > >sound peak at 6000Hz with 110db power, more than enough to cause the damage. > >Does this make sense? > >Thanks, Carl > For me it is cicadas, mostly. Today I hear almost no sound. A few > days ago, it sounded and felt like millions of them surrounded my > head. I’ve not heard a whistle and I don’t know what gas flowing > through a pipe sounds like because I am hearing impaired. > Some nights (weekends mostly) I get the faint sound of a far away > radio playing big band music in one ear. If I listen closely, I can > almost make out the melody which is fascinating because I can’t hear > anything out of that ear. Although it is very soft, the music is > quite "crisp" like an old transistor radio. Other nights, the music > sound is replaced by a very faint "electronic bug zapper" sound in > that ear. > In the other ear, I get some rather loud random clicks and pops on top > of the cicada sound and that is mostly in the daytime. I think I > notice all of it more at night because it is very quiet at home > compared to work and I am usually too busy to notice it when working. > When there is a low pressure weather system, the sounds in general get > louder. > Terri

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If you want to know exactly what mine sounds like generate a tone that is 5328 Hz. At that tone I am so close to it that it either feels like I have a knife being slowly rotated in my head or it is completely gone depending on whether it is in or out of phase with my head (wish I had that fine a control to make it stay out) If you are curious that is………… offering you a moment inside my head from afar Robin "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> wrote in message

news:u7nqa.12561$ac.855601@twister.austin.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks Martin > "Martin" <oh_brother_where_art_t…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:rcvjav4ongh85h50rcra2c9usq7ho3vh6k@4ax.com… > > On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:24:41 GMT, "Carl Dirk" <cdi…@elp.rr.com> > > wrote: > > >I am curious what other peoples T sounds like? > > If you go to the following link you can download a tone generator > > where you can place different values fro a range of frequencies. > > http://www.world-voices.com/software/nchtone.html > > Martin

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It is possible that the Freq. Generator is generating a harmonic to your tone as well and you are reacting to that. 12,500 is high indeed. In fact I "believe" it is extremely close to the edge of perceived hearing for most folks Robin "ShrkAtty" <shrka…@aol.com> wrote in message

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Sudden Hearing Loss

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Hyperacusis & earphones

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sagesseinfinie2…@yahoo.com (Susanne Sourire) wrote in message <news:6c43d2fc.0211212236.73e2473a@posting.google.com>… > I understand why it itsn’t handy for you not to wear them, since you > are a musician:-( Anxious to wear the headphones might only make the > hyperacusis feel worse. Perhaps it could help if you listened > regularly to some white and or pink noise?

How regular would that be then? And should it be through headphones or speakers? > Hope you get better.

Well, I don’t know what the prospects for hypoeracusis are. I hope I don’t have to stop making music. But if so, I can always try my old love: writing RS

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -jazz…@dds.nl (Richard Smol) wrote in message <news:2767b33a.0211221115.186cf39@posting.google.com>… > sagesseinfinie2…@yahoo.com (Susanne Sourire) wrote in message <news:6c43d2fc.0211212236.73e2473a@posting.google.com>… > > I understand why it itsn’t handy for you not to wear them, since you > > are a musician:-( Anxious to wear the headphones might only make the > > hyperacusis feel worse. Perhaps it could help if you listened > > regularly to some white and or pink noise? > How regular would that be then? And should it be through headphones > or speakers? > > Hope you get better. > Well, I don’t know what the prospects for hypoeracusis are. > I hope I don’t have to stop making music. But if so, I can always > try my old love: writing > RS

Hi again Richard. If I were you, I’d start with as much as I could tolerate and through speakers, at least to begin with. I think based upon my own experience that there’s fairly good prospects for hyperacusis. I developed mine along with a sudden hearing loss (way into my life with T). It is being very well treated with WNG’s (behind the ear white noise generators in my case). Actually it was of almost no bother, but then it flared again. Dont compare with me as for the flare-ups as I have some medical stuff that probably does this. Thus, keep up the hope because I think there’s really good chances of getting your hyperacusis treated. I’m just a layman, so I can’t tell if you’ll be able to use headphones like before. Perhaps. Why not, at low volume. But blowing your ears off with headphones is very likely to cause you harm. Writing is nice:-) Like that myself. Good to have something you really like. Thats part of coping and helps to see the positives. Even better if you get to make music. Hope you get to manage to do both:-) Susanne Susanne

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————– Hi Richard, I had hyperacusis pretty bad in my early days with ‘t’. Though I experienced pain it was different in that it was sharper and I only experienced it with loud sounds. It would let up when the loud sound ceased or became quieter. I was lucky enough to consciously desensitize myself. There was another guy who I saw post here two or three years back, Jack Rodgers (or Rogers), who desensitized himself much the same way. His hyperacusis had characteristics similar to what I have described for me. These days I have no problems with earphones, music or sharp sounds. Regards, Bruce

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sagesseinfinie2…@yahoo.com (Susanne Sourire) wrote in message <news:6c43d2fc.0211221810.66b33be3@posting.google.com>… > I think based upon my own experience that there’s fairly good > prospects for hyperacusis. I developed mine along with a sudden > hearing loss (way into my life with T). It is being very well treated > with WNG’s (behind the ear white noise generators in my case). > Actually it was of almost no bother, but then it flared again. Dont > compare with me as for the flare-ups as I have some medical stuff that > probably does this. > Thus, keep up the hope because I think there’s really good chances of > getting your hyperacusis treated.

Hmm. I read some about the hyperacusis experiences of other people and must say that mine are not nearly as severe. The only thing that happens is that my ear "clogs up" after hearing noise for some while. There is no real pain treshhold or anything, so I can crank the sound up pretty high. Maybe I should ask a second opinion about the diagnosis? I tried listening to some white and pink noise and that didn’t do anything for me (except having my tinnitus ring with it nicely, as it always did). I did notice a dip at 6300 Hz in my left ear though… a real musician’s problem, I am afraid. Thanks for your answer. RS

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>You’re describing phonophobia, not hyperacusis.

In the proverbial twenty words or less, what’s the difference Jack? tinnitus, custom compensated bridges, 5 string tabs, midis: www.haruteq.com banjo MP3’s: www.mp3.com/bartveerman **may your moments of need be met by moments of compassion**

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -High Flight wrote: >Bart V <i…@haruteq.com> says… >>>You’re describing phonophobia, not hyperacusis. >>In the proverbial twenty words or less, what’s the difference >>Jack? >The difference is explained in detail on numerous websites. Google is >your friend. Do your homework! > Jack

But only after you do the dishes! And no back talk.

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>I would love to hear from anyone who is willing >to experience a few self-inflected moments of ‘pain’ to discover if >letting go of that concept lets go of the pain and they improve.

I live in a quiet house and work at home. Not much noise or any much sound of any kind for that matter, that enters into my daily life. I [allegedly] play banjo, a pretty loud instrument. Whenever the banjo gets too loud I know it’s time for a night out to a local jam session to take in life’s regular noises and that never fails to "put me back in the driver seat." The jam sessions are only once a week but on a no-jam day a visit to the mall and moseying around there for a while always does the trick. No need to expose yourself to "shock treatments" like playing the stereo at full blast, that’s silly. On the other hand, no need to baby your ears with earplugs while turning pages of the newspaper either. The human hearing is designed for a wide range of sound levels, including bolts of thunder and nails on a chalk board. You might not enjoy it, but – there’s no reason hatswhoaever to fear it. Thanks for asking the question Elly, and your "dish therapy" is an excellent and practicle example that it is possible to accept these sounds for what they are: sounds. If you’re concerned about decibel levels, think about it this way: ever given any thought to the number of decibels a shower produces? Keep in mind, the spout is only about one to twelve inches away from your ear, depending on how tall you are – your tinnitus totally disappears and your hyperacusis doesn’t even come into the picture (for 99.9 percent of humans anyway). Yet – we’re talking sounds well in excess of 90~95 dB. Staggering numbers aren’t they… The "dish therapy" is an excellent tool, and, bless the dollar stores, a cheap one at that, to help you remove your fear of sound. Oh, inquiring minds need to know of course: how many dishes *did* you break? Bart. tinnitus, custom compensated bridges, 5 string tabs, midis: www.haruteq.com banjo MP3’s: www.mp3.com/bartveerman **may your moments of need be met by moments of compassion**

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Elly, you are amazing! LOL! That was the post (below) I was referring to. This is the technique that worked for me. : ) Bruce – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Elly Byrne <e…@eebee.cjb.net.noway> wrote in message <news:d5jvtus790k3jiita30gl5rddk4buf0prr@4ax.com>… > brucemey…@yahoo.com (BruceMeyerz) wrote: > >————– > >Hi Richard, > >I had hyperacusis pretty bad in my early days with ‘t’. Though I > >experienced pain it was different in that it was sharper and I > >only experienced it with loud sounds. It would let up when the loud > >sound ceased or became quieter. > >I was lucky enough to consciously desensitize myself. There was > >another guy who I saw post here two or three years back, Jack > >Rodgers (or Rogers), who desensitized himself much the same way. > >His hyperacusis had characteristics similar to what I have described > >for me. > >These days I have no problems with earphones, music or sharp sounds. > >Regards, > >Bruce > Jack said some years ago: > Hyperacusis > After getting the medical checkups recommended by others, you might > consider whether the problem is self-generated, as I did. > Initially the sounds of dishes clacking and voices, etc. were > unbearable and I perceived this as pain. So, I decided to test whether > or not my reactions were pain. I found they were not. > I did this by taking two dishes and every so gently tapping one > against the other and then experiencing the pain and thus wincing, or > moving away from the sounds, tightening my body and preparing to > defend against the pain. Very typical reactions. > But, what if it really wasn’t pain but phantom pain just as tinnitus > is a phantom sound. > So, I upgraded the test to make myself NOT wince, not defend against > this pain. > I hit the dish again a little harder and just let the experience > happen without reacting to it. The loud sound occurred, the > anticipated ‘pain’ occurred but both just ‘passed through me’ without > leaving any injury. > I hit the dish louder and the same experience occured. Since it was > not pain but phantom pain, I could relax through the experience just > as I would relax on a beach and feel the sun warm my body. > So, I hit the dish again and harder. And again. And again. I was > hitting it fairly hard by the time my test ended. Never did I wince or > hide or fear the ‘pain’. I just let it happen and experienced the > event. > For me, the hyperacusis was not something to fear although it seemed > to be. > I put my theory into practice in real life. When a sharp sound > occurred, I didn’t wince in pain but let the experience flow through > me. I got better. The hell I was being driven into when I tried to > hide from these sounds disappeared. > I believe there is a biological component to tinnitus and an emotional > component to tinnitus. We can do little about the biological component > but we can do a lot about the emotional component. We should have the > biological component checked by medicos to see if a tumor, vitamin > deficiency, etc. is the cause and thus can be treated. If there is > little help there, then we must address the emotional component. This > is what I did when I placed my fear of pain on the line and found out > that by not being afraid, I gained control over the problem. > This worked for me because I believed it would It may work for others > who believe that it will while not working for those who do not > believe it will help. I would love to hear from anyone who is willing > to experience a few self-inflected moments of ‘pain’ to discover if > letting go of that concept lets go of the pain and they improve. > Jack (immortalised on Elly’s webpage) > Tinnitus is a pain in the neck > Elly’s Tinnitus Resources > http://www.eebee.net/ > http://www.tinnitusrelief.net/ > http://www.alexandertechnique.com > For email: elly at eebee.cjb.net

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -brucemey…@yahoo.com (BruceMeyerz) wrote: >————– >Hi Richard, >I had hyperacusis pretty bad in my early days with ‘t’. Though I >experienced pain it was different in that it was sharper and I >only experienced it with loud sounds. It would let up when the loud >sound ceased or became quieter. >I was lucky enough to consciously desensitize myself. There was >another guy who I saw post here two or three years back, Jack >Rodgers (or Rogers), who desensitized himself much the same way. >His hyperacusis had characteristics similar to what I have described >for me. >These days I have no problems with earphones, music or sharp sounds. >Regards, >Bruce

Jack said some years ago: Hyperacusis After getting the medical checkups recommended by others, you might consider whether the problem is self-generated, as I did. Initially the sounds of dishes clacking and voices, etc. were unbearable and I perceived this as pain. So, I decided to test whether or not my reactions were pain. I found they were not. I did this by taking two dishes and every so gently tapping one against the other and then experiencing the pain and thus wincing, or moving away from the sounds, tightening my body and preparing to defend against the pain. Very typical reactions. But, what if it really wasn’t pain but phantom pain just as tinnitus is a phantom sound. So, I upgraded the test to make myself NOT wince, not defend against this pain. I hit the dish again a little harder and just let the experience happen without reacting to it. The loud sound occurred, the anticipated ‘pain’ occurred but both just ‘passed through me’ without leaving any injury. I hit the dish louder and the same experience occured. Since it was not pain but phantom pain, I could relax through the experience just as I would relax on a beach and feel the sun warm my body. So, I hit the dish again and harder. And again. And again. I was hitting it fairly hard by the time my test ended. Never did I wince or hide or fear the ‘pain’. I just let it happen and experienced the event. For me, the hyperacusis was not something to fear although it seemed to be. I put my theory into practice in real life. When a sharp sound occurred, I didn’t wince in pain but let the experience flow through me. I got better. The hell I was being driven into when I tried to hide from these sounds disappeared. I believe there is a biological component to tinnitus and an emotional component to tinnitus. We can do little about the biological component but we can do a lot about the emotional component. We should have the biological component checked by medicos to see if a tumor, vitamin deficiency, etc. is the cause and thus can be treated. If there is little help there, then we must address the emotional component. This is what I did when I placed my fear of pain on the line and found out that by not being afraid, I gained control over the problem. This worked for me because I believed it would It may work for others who believe that it will while not working for those who do not believe it will help. I would love to hear from anyone who is willing to experience a few self-inflected moments of ‘pain’ to discover if letting go of that concept lets go of the pain and they improve. Jack (immortalised on Elly’s webpage) Tinnitus is a pain in the neck Elly’s Tinnitus Resources http://www.eebee.net/ http://www.tinnitusrelief.net/ http://www.alexandertechnique.com For email: elly at eebee.cjb.net

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -jazz…@dds.nl (Richard Smol) wrote in message <news:2767b33a.0211210606.456dd4d4@posting.google.com>… > A while ago I reported about my tinnitus getting way worse after > attending a rock concert. Well, actually it has subsided quite a bit > and it mostly back at its old level, which is bearable since I am used > to it. > I do appear to have a case of hyperacusis in my left ear now though. > It’s not really that certain sounds really hurt my ears (that only at > happened at the very beginning, right after the concert). It’s more > that my left ear becomes dull and starts aching after listing to > prolongued sound at a certain volume for a while (like music). I use > professional ear plugs when playing with my band (I’m a bass player), > which seems to be working just fine. > The weird thing though is, that I can listen to stereo-sets, my > studio-monitors or even a moderately loud band without having any real > problem. Once I put on earphones though, I am in trouble, even if I > put the sound level oh so quiet. It is as if I am actually anxious to > wear the earphones, which makes the hyperacusis a lot worse. > Naturally, I am not wearing earphones if I can avoid it in any way. > This is not always handy, since I am a musician too, but it keeps the > problems down. > So, does anyone else recognize this problem with hyperacuses & > earphones? > Thanks in advance, > RS >>Once I put on earphones though, I am in trouble, even if I

put the sound level oh so quiet. It is as if I am actually anxious to wear the earphones, which makes the hyperacusis a lot worse. Naturally, I am not wearing earphones if I can avoid it in any way. This is not always handy, since I am a musician too, but it keeps the problems down. So, does anyone else recognize this problem with hyperacuses & earphones? Hi RS Like you, I have my hyperacusis get worse if I listen to headphones, so I have chosen to avoid it. I have a hearing loss and ever since I got that I have had great discomfort (not only for the hyperacusis, as this came way later) having any music close to my ear. I understand why it itsn’t handy for you not to wear them, since you are a musician:-( Anxious to wear the headphones might only make the hyperacusis feel worse. Perhaps it could help if you listened regularly to some white and or pink noise? Hope you get better. Susanne

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A while ago I reported about my tinnitus getting way worse after attending a rock concert. Well, actually it has subsided quite a bit and it mostly back at its old level, which is bearable since I am used to it. I do appear to have a case of hyperacusis in my left ear now though. It’s not really that certain sounds really hurt my ears (that only at happened at the very beginning, right after the concert). It’s more that my left ear becomes dull and starts aching after listing to prolongued sound at a certain volume for a while (like music). I use professional ear plugs when playing with my band (I’m a bass player), which seems to be working just fine. The weird thing though is, that I can listen to stereo-sets, my studio-monitors or even a moderately loud band without having any real problem. Once I put on earphones though, I am in trouble, even if I put the sound level oh so quiet. It is as if I am actually anxious to wear the earphones, which makes the hyperacusis a lot worse. Naturally, I am not wearing earphones if I can avoid it in any way. This is not always handy, since I am a musician too, but it keeps the problems down. So, does anyone else recognize this problem with hyperacuses & earphones? Thanks in advance, RS

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"bev" <bevca…@v21mail.co.uk> wrote in message

news:3d828e60@news.greennet.net… > went to see concert last wednesday 4th sep,and when i came out after the > show my ears were bad and i just about could make out what my friends were > talking about. 2 days later i now have this humming > noise,constant,24/7..went to see my doctor and she said that i would have to > wait and see if i’ve done damage to my ears,doctor said come back in 3 weeks > but didn’t even mention about tinnitus, i looked this up on the net > myself..but i think it’s a long time to wait,when it’s sort of making you > depressed and with my emotions effected too.but my main question is do you > think this humming noise will go away in 3 weeks time.and is it possible > that i could end up with tinnitus..please get back to me anyone..thanks if > you can.

Get PROPER levels of magnesium, zinc Vitamin C and L-Methionine. Dont overdose as your system will work hard dissipating what it does not need.

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Tinnitus is part of the sudden hearing loss. There is some evidence that anti oxidants may help hearing loss due to trauma. Until there is more evidence, I recommend taking anti oxidants – I don’t believe it can hurt, till you see the ENT doctor. I ask my patients to purchase an antioxidant formula, then try to take 2 – 3 times the recommended dose -( may upset the stomach. ) which antioxidant formula? I don’t know. Proof that it works??? I have no way of proving it, but I think the evidence is in the right direction. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com http://www.TinnitusRelief.net http://www.emedicine.com/ent/topic516.htm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<terri231> wrote in message news:3d836adc.17007723@news.starnetinc.com… > On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:19:26 +0100, "bev" <bevca…@v21mail.co.uk> > wrote: > >went to see concert last wednesday 4th sep,and when i came out after the > >show my ears were bad and i just about could make out what my friends were > >talking about. 2 days later i now have this humming > >noise,constant,24/7..went to see my doctor and she said that i would have to > >wait and see if i’ve done damage to my ears,doctor said come back in 3 weeks > >but didn’t even mention about tinnitus, i looked this up on the net > >myself..but i think it’s a long time to wait,when it’s sort of making you > >depressed and with my emotions effected too.but my main question is do you > >think this humming noise will go away in 3 weeks time.and is it possible > >that i could end up with tinnitus..please get back to me anyone..thanks if > >you can. > There are some types of sudden noise induced tinnitus that go away and > only time will tell if you had that kind. You were right to go to a > dr. to get a professional opinion of your particular situation and > also very wise to do your research. > It’s important to note that there is no cure for tinnitus and often > its origin is unknown. It can be very annoying especially in the > beginning to the point that people will try anything for ‘relief’. > This is what "snake oil salesmen" types thrive on, so be vary wary of > anyone offering "treatment" or "cures" or "potions" should the sound > continue. Your post will no doubt trigger "caring" email from just > that type of individual. Such is the world of opportunists. > Those of us that have had it for a long time can tell you that it is > more noticeable when the surroundings are quiet but that you also can > get to a point where you realize you aren’t even listening to it > anymore. > You don’t know if yours is long-term, but I mention this because you > might worry needlessly if it doesn’t go away in the 3 weeks time. > Stress can aggravate tinnitus for some, so try not to worry about it > while you ear may be "healling" from the loud noise. > Whether the ringing persists or not, it is a good idea to prevent > further damage to your hearing by wearing the kind of earplugs you can > purchase at a drug store or similar place when you might be explosed > to loud noises (even noises such as mowing the lawn). > Terri

I want to mirror what Jim Chinnis and Terri have said. Get PROPER levels of magnesium, zinc Vitamin C and L-Methionine. If you can’t get those supplements just try to relax and think about statistics. They are on your side, and this is likely to resolve in 4 weeks. If it does not, then there is help here, and the noise is going to decrease with time. It might be traumatic at first but I want you to think you can return to normal life, you can in time.

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On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:19:26 +0100, "bev" <bevca…@v21mail.co.uk> wrote: >went to see concert last wednesday 4th sep,and when i came out after the >show my ears were bad and i just about could make out what my friends were >talking about. 2 days later i now have this humming >noise,constant,24/7..went to see my doctor and she said that i would have to >wait and see if i’ve done damage to my ears,doctor said come back in 3 weeks >but didn’t even mention about tinnitus, i looked this up on the net >myself..but i think it’s a long time to wait,when it’s sort of making you >depressed and with my emotions effected too.but my main question is do you >think this humming noise will go away in 3 weeks time.and is it possible >that i could end up with tinnitus..please get back to me anyone..thanks if >you can.

There are some types of sudden noise induced tinnitus that go away and only time will tell if you had that kind. You were right to go to a dr. to get a professional opinion of your particular situation and also very wise to do your research. It’s important to note that there is no cure for tinnitus and often its origin is unknown. It can be very annoying especially in the beginning to the point that people will try anything for ‘relief’. This is what "snake oil salesmen" types thrive on, so be vary wary of anyone offering "treatment" or "cures" or "potions" should the sound continue. Your post will no doubt trigger "caring" email from just that type of individual. Such is the world of opportunists. Those of us that have had it for a long time can tell you that it is more noticeable when the surroundings are quiet but that you also can get to a point where you realize you aren’t even listening to it anymore. You don’t know if yours is long-term, but I mention this because you might worry needlessly if it doesn’t go away in the 3 weeks time. Stress can aggravate tinnitus for some, so try not to worry about it while you ear may be "healling" from the loud noise. Whether the ringing persists or not, it is a good idea to prevent further damage to your hearing by wearing the kind of earplugs you can purchase at a drug store or similar place when you might be explosed to loud noises (even noises such as mowing the lawn). Terri

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It is possible, but not probable. Give it three weeks and see what happens. On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:19:26 +0100, "bev" <bevca…@v21mail.co.uk> wrote: >went to see concert last wednesday 4th sep,and when i came out after the >show my ears were bad and i just about could make out what my friends were >talking about. 2 days later i now have this humming >noise,constant,24/7..went to see my doctor and she said that i would have to >wait and see if i’ve done damage to my ears,doctor said come back in 3 weeks >but didn’t even mention about tinnitus, i looked this up on the net >myself..but i think it’s a long time to wait,when it’s sort of making you >depressed and with my emotions effected too.but my main question is do you >think this humming noise will go away in 3 weeks time.and is it possible >that i could end up with tinnitus..please get back to me anyone..thanks if >you can.

Jim Childress jsc_da_…@yahoo.com

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"bev" <bevca…@v21mail.co.uk> wrote in part: >went to see concert last wednesday 4th sep,and when i came out after the >show my ears were bad and i just about could make out what my friends were >talking about. 2 days later i now have this humming >noise,constant,24/7..went to see my doctor and she said that i would have to >wait and see if i’ve done damage to my ears,doctor said come back in 3 weeks >but didn’t even mention about tinnitus, i looked this up on the net >myself..but i think it’s a long time to wait,when it’s sort of making you >depressed and with my emotions effected too.but my main question is do you >think this humming noise will go away in 3 weeks time.and is it possible >that i could end up with tinnitus..please get back to me anyone..thanks if >you can.

It may very well disappear. In the meantime, you should probably try to avoid very quiet surroundings where the tinnitus will sound louder. Have some soft music or a fan, etc. going when you are indoors. Avoid more concerts of the type that caused this and any other very loud settings, or use ear plugs when noise levels are dangerous, but ONLY at those times. It is *possible* that getting plenty of antioxidants in your diet or via (safe levels of) supplements may assist recovery. In case the tinnitus does not get better, there are treatments that help and time itself usually results in your not being aware of or caring about the sound much. — Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA The American Tinnitus Association can help: 800-634-8978 Want to discuss Meniere’s? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG Want to discuss tinnitus? See http://www.tinn.com/support.htm

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went to see concert last wednesday 4th sep,and when i came out after the show my ears were bad and i just about could make out what my friends were talking about. 2 days later i now have this humming noise,constant,24/7..went to see my doctor and she said that i would have to wait and see if i’ve done damage to my ears,doctor said come back in 3 weeks but didn’t even mention about tinnitus, i looked this up on the net myself..but i think it’s a long time to wait,when it’s sort of making you depressed and with my emotions effected too.but my main question is do you think this humming noise will go away in 3 weeks time.and is it possible that i could end up with tinnitus..please get back to me anyone..thanks if you can.

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