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I’ve got one of those old 1940’s rotary phones in my shop and the ring on that thing could wake the dead ! Even with the planer on I can hear it go off, the trick is getting all the way over to the phone in four rings :~))
You can probably call the phone company and change how many rings it takes before the voice mail kicks in…. steve
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You can even go through the interminable menu and change the number of rings yourself.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve got one of those old 1940’s rotary phones in my shop and the ring on that thing could wake the dead ! Even with the planer on I can hear it go off, the trick is getting all the way over to the phone in four rings :~)) You can probably call the phone company and change how many rings it takes before the voice mail kicks in…. steve
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You can even go through the interminable menu and change the number of rings yourself.
uh, ok, I’ll bite. What and how do you get to the interminable menu? "Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and as sweet as love." – Turkish proverb
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There are devices sold for the hearing-impaired that flash a light when the phone rings. Check with your phone company. Here’s a URL to one such product http://www.telemovers.com/accessories.htm#telestrobe Al Cooperband – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi and thanks for reading this….I apologize if anyone thinks this is off topic….but it IS for my wood shop in the back yard where I run my table saw etc. Have you ever found yourself waiting for an important call and are too afraid to turn on the table saw or any other tool for fear it might drown out the phone if it rings? I make my living waiting for the phone to ring so I can go to work. When things are slow at work I want to go to my shop and play….but when I get there I find myself too damned scared to turn anything on for fear the phone just might ring. My telephones work like this….I have a cable running throughout the house……4 wires in it…blue, red, yellow and black…Only two wires are used to make the phone work…other two are curled up and not in use. The phone line runs 90 feet to the shop (undergound) from the house. Can anyone tell me what kind of voltage runs to the phone to cause the phone to ring? Reason for this is that I would like to hook up a light bulb some way so it flashes when the phone rings. I don’t want to go to Radio Shack and PAY 50 bucks for this…(Not to mention that the guy that works there is somewhat of an ass)…I see it sitting there in the store and from what I can see of it….it’s just not worth the fifty bucks. If I can’t build it myself I will do without it and simply not use loud tools. I can buy lots of other stuff for that kind of money and have LOTS of junk around to make this I am certain!!! …I only require knowledge. What goes to the phone to make that sucker ring?…Where can I tap into this wonderful machine and make a light shine when that "Ball and chain " decides to ring?….Regards…Jim Morris
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I wouldn’t give up the Radio Shack Fone Ringer II (I think the name)for ~$29.00 years ago that rings LOUD and flashes a strobe light while ringing. With earmuffs the flashing light is almost always enough to turn stuff off and answer prior to answering machie kickin. Phone line splitter and 110VAC is all it takes. Have simular problem myself. Took old phone (dial type with LOUD bell type ringer) and hooked in to phone line with splitter.
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Where can I tap into this wonderful machine and make a light shine when that "Ball and chain " decides to ring?….Regards…Jim Morris
Remember the CLAPPER ( clap on, clap off) device that used to be advertised on TV? If your phone was next to a CLAPPER , the sound of the phone ringing could turn a light on or off. You might have to put the clapper and phone fairly close together and insulate them from the shop noises some to get it to work. just an idea. Dennis
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wait a Hold it !!!!! (vbg) I use 3 of those "strobe lights" in my shop that I purchased from radio Shack (the big ones not the little things) and they did not cost anywhere near 50 bucks…But honestly still not cheap at about 30 bucks.. BUT that is NOT the point… I never miss a phone call … ! when the phone rings I have a strobe light firing off on 3 of my four walls in the shop… noway can I not see it… You make your living waiting for the phone BUT you are NOT willing to invest 50 bucks …. kind of like the beer salesman who does not want to invest in a hand truck to unload his product… If the salesman was an ASS then drive across town to another Radio Shack store… I have my favorite store and it is not the closest to the house…but connecting the strobes took 10 minutes they work and work well no matter if I have 5 machines running at the same time…(which I do not) … I’m sorry if I sound like I am blasting you… I did not mean to do that..but just spending 50 bucks would allow you to be "free" to relax and honestly spending 50 bucks to relax is in my opinion better then spending 50 bucks to increase your income… Bob Griffiths
Hi Bob, I’ve got one of those old 1940’s rotary phones in my shop and the ring on that thing could wake the dead ! Even with the planer on I can hear it go off, the trick is getting all the way over to the phone in four rings :~)) Mike Wilcox
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Thanks for all of your sugestions…I have printed them out . Regards…Jim Morris
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wait a Hold it !!!!! (vbg) I use 3 of those "strobe lights" in my shop that I purchased from radio Shack (the big ones not the little things) and they did not cost anywhere near 50 bucks…But honestly still not cheap at about 30 bucks.. BUT that is NOT the point… I never miss a phone call … ! when the phone rings I have a strobe light firing off on 3 of my four walls in the shop… noway can I not see it… You make your living waiting for the phone BUT you are NOT willing to invest 50 bucks …. kind of like the beer salesman who does not want to invest in a hand truck to unload his product… If the salesman was an ASS then drive across town to another Radio Shack store… I have my favorite store and it is not the closest to the house…but connecting the strobes took 10 minutes they work and work well no matter if I have 5 machines running at the same time…(which I do not) … I’m sorry if I sound like I am blasting you… I did not mean to do that..but just spending 50 bucks would allow you to be "free" to relax and honestly spending 50 bucks to relax is in my opinion better then spending 50 bucks to increase your income… Bob Griffiths Hi and thanks for reading this….I apologize if anyone thinks this is off topic….but it IS for my wood shop in the back yard where I run my table saw etc. Have you ever found yourself waiting for an important call and are too afraid to turn on the table saw or any other tool for fear it might drown out the phone if it rings? I make my living waiting for the phone to ring so I can go to work. When things are slow at work I want to go to my shop and play….but when I get there I find myself too damned scared to turn anything on for fear the phone just might ring. My telephones work like this….I have a cable running throughout the house……4 wires in it…blue, red, yellow and black…Only two wires are used to make the phone work…other two are curled up and not in use. The phone line runs 90 feet to the shop (undergound) from the house. Can anyone tell me what kind of voltage runs to the phone to cause the phone to ring? Reason for this is that I would like to hook up a light bulb some way so it flashes when the phone rings. I don’t want to go to Radio Shack and PAY 50 bucks for this…(Not to mention that the guy that works there is somewhat of an ass)…I see it sitting there in the store and from what I can see of it….it’s just not worth the fifty bucks. If I can’t build it myself I will do without it and simply not use loud tools. I can buy lots of other stuff for that kind of money and have LOTS of junk around to make this I am certain!!! …I only require knowledge. What goes to the phone to make that sucker ring?…Where can I tap into this wonderful machine and make a light shine when that "Ball and chain " decides to ring?….Regards…Jim Morris
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Have simular problem myself. Took old phone (dial type with LOUD bell type ringer) and hooked in to phone line with splitter. Place old phone on high shelf so that it is in the clear and can be heard. Use cordless phone with cricket sounding ringer to talk on. Works well except when running loud equipment where I wear ear protection. Lights I wonder about since when I am working I am looking at where my fingers are not at the phone. If I miss a call I have an answering machine to catch it. But for important calls within a time frame it does the job. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi and thanks for reading this….I apologize if anyone thinks this is off topic….but it IS for my wood shop in the back yard where I run my table saw etc. Have you ever found yourself waiting for an important call and are too afraid to turn on the table saw or any other tool for fear it might drown out the phone if it rings? I make my living waiting for the phone to ring so I can go to work. When things are slow at work I want to go to my shop and play….but when I get there I find myself too damned scared to turn anything on for fear the phone just might ring. My telephones work like this….I have a cable running throughout the house……4 wires in it…blue, red, yellow and black…Only two wires are used to make the phone work…other two are curled up and not in use. The phone line runs 90 feet to the shop (undergound) from the house. Can anyone tell me what kind of voltage runs to the phone to cause the phone to ring? Reason for this is that I would like to hook up a light bulb some way so it flashes when the phone rings. I don’t want to go to Radio Shack and PAY 50 bucks for this…(Not to mention that the guy that works there is somewhat of an ass)…I see it sitting there in the store and from what I can see of it….it’s just not worth the fifty bucks. If I can’t build it myself I will do without it and simply not use loud tools. I can buy lots of other stuff for that kind of money and have LOTS of junk around to make this I am certain!!! …I only require knowledge. What goes to the phone to make that sucker ring?…Where can I tap into this wonderful machine and make a light shine when that "Ball and chain " decides to ring?….Regards…Jim Morris
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I bought one of those Radio Shack units for $8.99 (PN# 43-179) I took it apart and found a bulb and a resister in series with it. From this I built three flashing units using LED’s If you spend the $9 and get the unit, carefully take it apart and see what makes it tick. Then take it back and get the parts you need to build your own or use this unit. It plugs into the phone line and comes with it’s own cord and a line splitter. You just unplug the cord, plug in the line splitter, plug in the cord and the unit to the cord and the phone into the splitter. I might suggest that if you install the flashing light, somewhere where it will attract your attention, such as a dark corner, it will work. BTW, I believe I used an LED in series with a 3300 ohm resister. — Woody What is life like? http://community.webtv.net/WoodworkerJoe/LifesLikeThat 85 Life tips. Updated 11-26-01 Build This Dust Collector Separator Lid (With Photos): http://community.webtv.net/WoodworkerJoe/buildadustcollector Murphy’s Woodworking Definitions at: http://comunity.webtv.net/WoodworkerJoe/MurphysDictionary Updated 6-16-01 Murphy’s 105 Woodworking Laws: http://community.webtv.net/WoodworkerJoe/MurphysWoodworking Updated 6-2-2001
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http://dynamic-living.com/telephone_signaler.htm $40 and all set to go for ya – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi and thanks for reading this….I apologize if anyone thinks this is off topic….but it IS for my wood shop in the back yard where I run my table saw etc. Have you ever found yourself waiting for an important call and are too afraid to turn on the table saw or any other tool for fear it might drown out the phone if it rings? I make my living waiting for the phone to ring so I can go to work. When things are slow at work I want to go to my shop and play….but when I get there I find myself too damned scared to turn anything on for fear the phone just might ring. My telephones work like this….I have a cable running throughout the house……4 wires in it…blue, red, yellow and black…Only two wires are used to make the phone work…other two are curled up and not in use. The phone line runs 90 feet to the shop (undergound) from the house. Can anyone tell me what kind of voltage runs to the phone to cause the phone to ring? Reason for this is that I would like to hook up a light bulb some way so it flashes when the phone rings. I don’t want to go to Radio Shack and PAY 50 bucks for this…(Not to mention that the guy that works there is somewhat of an ass)…I see it sitting there in the store and from what I can see of it….it’s just not worth the fifty bucks. If I can’t build it myself I will do without it and simply not use loud tools. I can buy lots of other stuff for that kind of money and have LOTS of junk around to make this I am certain!!! …I only require knowledge. What goes to the phone to make that sucker ring?…Where can I tap into this wonderful machine and make a light shine when that "Ball and chain " decides to ring?….Regards…Jim Morris
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Don’t know if this would work, but it should: Use the phone as your interface device. Get some cheap phone, maybe someone else’s cast-off, put it in the shop, and connect a light to where the bell is wired inside the phone. Disconnect the bell so as to now overdraw the acceptable equivalency. Anyway, I feel comfortable experimenting with phone stuff (since before "Carter Phone") and this is what I would probably do. Here is a link that came up 3rd on the list with a Yahoo search "phone light ring" http://www.aaroncake.net/circuits/pflash.htm (hint, hint) If you are comfortable with relays and schematics, that link is one way to go and won’t upset the phone company since power comes from 120v plug in your house. Rick may be right in his post, but I vaguely recall that the phone rings at 48 volts. Easy enough to check with a meter. Maybe you can get a more definitive answer at alt.engineering.electrical NG. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi and thanks for reading this….I apologize if anyone thinks this is off topic….but it IS for my wood shop in the back yard where I run my table saw etc. Have you ever found yourself waiting for an important call and are too afraid to turn on the table saw or any other tool for fear it might drown out the phone if it rings? I make my living waiting for the phone to ring so I can go to work. When things are slow at work I want to go to my shop and play….but when I get there I find myself too damned scared to turn anything on for fear the phone just might ring. My telephones work like this….I have a cable running throughout the house……4 wires in it…blue, red, yellow and black…Only two wires are used to make the phone work…other two are curled up and not in use. The phone line runs 90 feet to the shop (undergound) from the house. Can anyone tell me what kind of voltage runs to the phone to cause the phone to ring? Reason for this is that I would like to hook up a light bulb some way so it flashes when the phone rings. I don’t want to go to Radio Shack and PAY 50 bucks for this…(Not to mention that the guy that works there is somewhat of an ass)…I see it sitting there in the store and from what I can see of it….it’s just not worth the fifty bucks. If I can’t build it myself I will do without it and simply not use loud tools. I can buy lots of other stuff for that kind of money and have LOTS of junk around to make this I am certain!!! …I only require knowledge. What goes to the phone to make that sucker ring?…Where can I tap into this wonderful machine and make a light shine when that "Ball and chain " decides to ring?….Regards…Jim Morris
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Jim: Working with a telephone line can be interesting, but you have to follow a bunch of rules to get it to work well. Typical on hook (the handset on the cradle, no call in progress) voltage on the line is 48 volts DC. When you pick up the handset, you go off hook, and the voltage drops to near nothing because you close the circuit in a current loop that powers the phone and signals the dial central office (DCO) to give you a dial tone. When you are on hook, and the phone is ringing, there is a 100 Volt AC signal put on the line at about 25 hertz or so (depends on the DCO) which, on the old phones, was coupled through a capacitor to the electromagnets that made up the ringer (causing a metal clapper to alternately strike the two bells). As you might imagine from the small size of the wires, there isn’t much current there, but it was enough to make the bell work. Newer phones use electronic bells or beepers, and can run directly from the signal, or by charging a capacitor by taking a very small current from the line when the phone is not in use. Anything you hook to a telephone line must meet certain isolation standards, and there is a ringer equivalence number for each instrument you purchase. If you put too many instruments on a given line, the phone company has to compensate by providing more ring current, or you may get erratic (or no) ring when you are supposed to, and other difficulties with your phone. As you know, there are external circuits you can add to the phone to add an external bell, and Radio Shack does (or used to) carry one. There are types that can switch a larger load, like a light (particularly good for noisy environments or deaf people that use tty equipment on phone lines to communicate) or really large, noisy bells (like you might hear at a used car lot, for example). I don’t believe the one from Radio Shack can do either. I remember seeing a circuit that a hobbyist electronic type could put together that could switch the external load (light or bell) but can’t put my finger on one right now. As I remember it, there were enough components involved that to build just one would have cost around thirty dollars, so for most people it’s generally best to bite the bullet and just find a commercial unit. –Rick AH7H – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi and thanks for reading this….I apologize if anyone thinks this is off topic….but it IS for my wood shop in the back yard where I run my table saw etc. Have you ever found yourself waiting for an important call and are too afraid to turn on the table saw or any other tool for fear it might drown out the phone if it rings? I make my living waiting for the phone to ring so I can go to work. When things are slow at work I want to go to my shop and play….but when I get there I find myself too damned scared to turn anything on for fear the phone just might ring. My telephones work like this….I have a cable running throughout the house……4 wires in it…blue, red, yellow and black…Only two wires are used to make the phone work…other two are curled up and not in use. The phone line runs 90 feet to the shop (undergound) from the house. Can anyone tell me what kind of voltage runs to the phone to cause the phone to ring? Reason for this is that I would like to hook up a light bulb some way so it flashes when the phone rings. I don’t want to go to Radio Shack and PAY 50 bucks for this…(Not to mention that the guy that works there is somewhat of an ass)…I see it sitting there in the store and from what I can see of it….it’s just not worth the fifty bucks. If I can’t build it myself I will do without it and simply not use loud tools. I can buy lots of other stuff for that kind of money and have LOTS of junk around to make this I am certain!!! …I only require knowledge. What goes to the phone to make that sucker ring?…Where can I tap into this wonderful machine and make a light shine when that "Ball and chain " decides to ring?….Regards…Jim Morris
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Hi and thanks for reading this….I apologize if anyone thinks this is off topic….but it IS for my wood shop in the back yard where I run my table saw etc. Have you ever found yourself waiting for an important call and are too afraid to turn on the table saw or any other tool for fear it might drown out the phone if it rings? I make my living waiting for the phone to ring so I can go to work. When things are slow at work I want to go to my shop and play….but when I get there I find myself too damned scared to turn anything on for fear the phone just might ring. My telephones work like this….I have a cable running throughout the house……4 wires in it…blue, red, yellow and black…Only two wires are used to make the phone work…other two are curled up and not in use. The phone line runs 90 feet to the shop (undergound) from the house. Can anyone tell me what kind of voltage runs to the phone to cause the phone to ring? Reason for this is that I would like to hook up a light bulb some way so it flashes when the phone rings. I don’t want to go to Radio Shack and PAY 50 bucks for this…(Not to mention that the guy that works there is somewhat of an ass)…I see it sitting there in the store and from what I can see of it….it’s just not worth the fifty bucks. If I can’t build it myself I will do without it and simply not use loud tools. I can buy lots of other stuff for that kind of money and have LOTS of junk around to make this I am certain!!! …I only require knowledge. What goes to the phone to make that sucker ring?…Where can I tap into this wonderful machine and make a light shine when that "Ball and chain " decides to ring?….Regards…Jim Morris
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